[GTNOS]

as usual, ANYTHING that GM kills and then re-births sucks.

Examples:

1. Impala - even with the new V8, still doesnt deserve nameplate
2. Monte Carlo - all 3 times it was "reborn" - sucks (original sucked too)
3. GTO - 400 hp!!, great idea in the beginning - along the line GM fvcked it up by shoving the engine in a Grand Am:sterb: :sterb: :sterb: :sterb:

4. Camaro... it'll suck. you can count on it, its GM

and whats this HHR p.o.s?? (Heritage Hot Rod??) im still trying to figure out what the hell that thing is supposed to resemble from GM's past.... looks more Chryslers past, i think GM liked the PT Cruiser and hit the Zerox button....

Bottom Line: Ford is the only one with a clue on a retro muscle car. Dodge is trying, ill give them that, the Hemi is cool, the Magnum is even OK, but a 4 door Charger????? Must have been the same designer who worked out the GTOs body lines....:sterb: :sterb: :sterb: :sterb:

now the challenger concept is a different story... they build that... ill change my tune....:tongue

 

[GTNOS]

ok let me ask everyone this ! if ford took and made the mustangs few years ahead front wheel drive would you like it or bash like people do the camaro ?
please anwser honest !

oh forgot main thing, seen it in magazine there saying camaro be back in 2009 with a 327 !
oh and not trying hijack thread . just thought i'd ask, while everyone bashing on gm . i think gm answerd to ford with z06 ! that should keep gm going, even though there laying off 30k people . feel for them, just keeps getting worse !

oh and no there is no more firechicken, i mean firbird lol .

here link http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106732

oh i would bash it.. along with some ford designers head for ******* up the mustang and be glad that i bought the last good model. as good as ford did with the new stang i worry about where it will go from here. how do you re-design a car that you have retro'd. is ford going to just re-live the the past all over again with new retros of older cars. i dang sure hope we dont see a new retro'd mustang II in the years to come. with the epa's mandated zero emisssions law scheduled to take effect in 2010 it sounds like the muscle car will surely die along with v8s and any kind of power in a vehicle. gm has done the most extensive designing of new powertrains of any automaker and they have said it is physically impossible with anything bigger than 4 cylinders on a gasoline engine. i think there is a very good possibility with that law coming in 2010, gas prices, the fact that the stang almost got killed a few years back due to low sales, and the economy in general, that the s197 will be the last mustang. i think ford knows it will die and they have decided to let it go out with one hell of a bang. that explains all the new model offerings in the works that have not been available for decades such as the gt500, gt350, and the boss. that is one reason i wanted a new one, i fear the end is near.

and gm didnt answer ford with the Z06. the vette contends with the euros now (hence the new euro front end) gm doesnt compete that car with the mustang or any other american car cept the viper (which i believe is still kicking the vettes a$$) its no comparison. even the base vette is dbl the price of a gt. look in motortrend, car and driver, autoweek, or any other mag like those. you'll see the vette compared to bmw, porshe, ferrari and the like. until gm has a car of equal price and performance to the mustang, they havent answered a dang thing.:sterb:

 

[GTNOS]

making the Mustang a zero emission car isn't that difficult, there's already a plan in place.

FTM, the new 3.5L v6 is 300hp capable, hybrid capable, and is SULEV, with no-lev a possibility.

I wouldn't worry about the future.

V6?? Hybrid?? SULEV with no-lev possibility?? will it get 50 mile per gallon too?? no V8?? it'll pass a gas station?? oooohhh god nooo!!!! weep... weep... weep... they're gonna make another Mustang II!!! :sadcry: :sadcry: :sadcry: :sadcry:

why ford??!! why the mustang??!! take the $150,000 GT instead... no one can afford it anyway!! i just dont understand .... :sadcry: :sadcry: :sadcry: :sadcry:

damn EPA!!:madas: