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The time has already come. I bought a CPO 2007 V6 in Feb, and have been driving it quite lightly (getting 30-35 mpg on the highway, and 23ish city), and otherwise babying it. No dumps, excessive slipping, or high-rev takeoffs. Usually I start with minimal gas, and max of 1k rpm, but more around idle. The 4.0 has plenty of torque for me. Anytime I have given it the beans (in rare instances) the clutch has been fully engaged...been driving manuals officially since I started driving, and unofficially since I was 12, so I'm pretty familiar with how to drive things, even in hills.

Anyway, I bought the car with 49800 miles on the odo, and it's now around 55400. Two times over the weekend while cruising (70 mph 5th gear, 2k rpm) I try passing someone while going uphill, and start smelling the clutch, without RPM rising much that I noticed. At the end of the weekend, I smell it from a stop light. The takeoff was normal, flat ground, no slip, idle RPM. Just let the clutch out normally and it's smooth. No judder.

So this makes me wonder. Only 55k on the odo and the clutch is shot? What is going on here? I drove a '90 Escort for 5 years and beat the stuffing out of the clutch, in 50k miles, and it still grabs fine. It even had a leaky rear main, yet the clutch survived. I was not kind to that car in the least. Prior to that was a '91 Tempo. 25k on a new clutch in it, before it was flipped. No wear.

What kind of lifespan do these clutches have? I've searched around here and online, finding many saying 50k-ish. That's pretty stinking low for a performance car. I'll update this as I will likely fight with Ford regarding replacing under the extended warranty (with maint. plan). Other than this issue, and the underwhelming shifting experience (due to old/low tranny fluid and stock shifter...both resolved by myself), I've really enjoyed the car.

Anyone had similar issues, particularly with a CPO? I wonder how Ford responds to these types of issues. If it comes down to paying, I'll simply buy a Spec and do the job myself, but I'm trying to be a tad lazy in terms of work. Plus my garage is full of two Escorts and a CVH engine in mid rebuild.

Thanks for the input.
 

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The one thing you don't know is how the other 49500 miles were driven. They could have burned up the clutch before you ever got it.
 

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Very good point. The previous owner could've beaten the hell out of it from day one. If you're driving it like you say you are, then there is no chance that it's your fault
 

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When i bought mine at the dealer i was there the day the guy traded it in and i got to look at it and ask him ?'s. He was real honest and at 43k miles my clutch feals brand new
 

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I'm the original owner of my '06 and I've driven hard on too many times to count. My OEM clutch started slipping at around 75,000 and I didn't get around to changing it until 86,000. It was slipping that whole time. I still drove it hard through all that too, but that was a little difficult because if I pushed it too hard it slipped like crazy and reminded me I had something to fix.

I put a CenterForce in it and now have over 108,000. I'm driving mellow right now for about 500 miles because of a new axle I put on this last weekend.

If I drove the way you say you do the whole time I had mine, I would probably still be on my original clutch.

But I really think no 2 Fords are ever the same. Who knows how that first 49800 was for your car.

But here's a thought: maybe your car was a first-time clutch for somebody. You know that has to be hard on it depending on the driver.
 

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Agreed. I'm thinking the previous owner didn't know what they were doing. I have an appt. next Tuesday, bright and early. The car's original dealer is also where I bought it from. We'll see what they say. It'll get a decent workout on the way there. I actually love trying to see what kind of mpg I can wring from this thing. Current best was 34.9 MPG averaging around 58 mph from the freeway to bi-ways. Traffic jams will really cut it down, but I avoid those 95% of the time, or am riding with the roommate to work, so my car doesn't take the hit. I'll update this as things transpire. Mostly I'm hoping to just have things replaced under the warranty, as slapping a clutch in the car is going to be a bare at the moment....maybe I should finish the Escort build and continue to beat it mercilessly. :p Thanks for the responses.
 

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The Mustang clutches seem to "consume" more of their friction material during routine engagement than some other cars I've driven. I got 80k out of my first clutch.

For sake of comparison, I got 225k out of the first clutch on my '92 Audi S4. But that car is a bit over-engineered.

In your case, you don't know how the previous owner was driving. But I'd say anything over 75k is borrowed time for a Mustang clutch.
 

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I see statements on here, and other places regarding Centerforce or Spec. That's all I've found so far. Is there any particular reason to go with one or the other? Any idea which lasts longer? I'm not exactly hot-rodding the thing, and if it comes down to me doing it, I'd rather buy something that is going to last, and live with a a dozen hard shifts in a year.
 

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The idea behind the Centerforce clutch is that you can maintain a stock or close to stock petal feel in the clutch, but as RPM's increase centrifugal weights increase the pressure placed on the disk and that action helps to reduce slipage and not have such a strong feel. In the old days they had to use very strong springs to create enough presure to elimanite slipage under strong HP applications.
 

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Clutches are only as good as the Drivers that use them. Now this is a different clutch but still a FORD. I bought a 1990 FORD F150 4X4 in 1990, Brand New and I STILL have it, it has the 4.9 Straight 6 and now has 180,239 miles on it and I still have the Original Clutch in it, no problems at all (Knock Wood:gringreen) and I live in SNOW Country and have used it to get me through many a feet of Snow:bigthumbsup
 

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FYI, there is a third option for aftermarket clutches: Clutchnet. No personal experience with them, but they've been touted as one of the best clutch brands on smaller cars. They have a similar lineup to Spec, it seems.
 

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We changed our factory clutch on our 06 v6 around 150k or so. Basically, it was right after we put in the dual exhaust. We were having too much fun with it and it went from doing great one day to burnt the next day..

I just had the flywheel cleaned up and put in a centerforce dual friction clutch. It works and feels better, but its a little hard to shift at 5000+ rpms..

We have over 20k miles or so on the new clutch..

~Mark
 

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bought my 2005 4.0 at 43,700 miles, the clutch seemed strong and i figured it had quite a ways of life left, just replaced it at 61,500 miles. i did learn to drive standard on this car, and i had my fair share of beating on it. so i guess my experience is just about average.
 

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Thanks for the extra input everyone. I'll have more of an answer come Tuesday. I do know that my car is after the date when Ford switched to dual-mass flywheel; such is life.

Another question: How high does everyone's pedal grab? Mine is grabbing pretty high..maybe an inch or so from the top.
 

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UPDATE:

Called the dealer back to get specifics on warranties and whatnot. As it turns out, according to my dealer, a CPO will have 12 months or 12k miles for the clutch warranty. This is good news for me. Maybe I'll go celebrate, do some hard launches, and kill it off :p (joking, of course).
 

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2nd update: Took the car in, and the dealer didn't do a thing to it today. So I slog back the 80 miles to home....in a 2010 Dodge F-ing Journey. In that distance, with the cruise set to 70 mph, the vehicle uses half a tank of gas. On top of that, the dash and screen like to reboot at random. To say I'm unhappy with this loaner is an understatement. Gas is $3.55+ here. I don't need to spend $80 on gas for this.
 

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Third update: The dealer is not going to touch my car until next Tuesday, so it will have sat for an entire week before being looked at. They aren't busy. The "transmission specialist" decided to avoid it for two days, and is not on vacation, so nobody else will touch it. The Dodge loaner went back, after I had to fill up its tank ($3.69 a gallon for regular here). The new loaner (2011 Ford Edge limited) comes with an empty tank and a windshield that looks like someone smeared armorall on it and let it dry. Once I get my car back, Ford is getting a nasty letter about this dealership, as is the dealership owner. And if anyone is near WV, avoid Astorg Ford, because they obviously do not care about repairs, long wait times, or giving reliable vehicles to their customers. They also try to sell a package where they claim to deliver the vehicle to the person (the actual vehicle, or a loaner). They won't honor this. Despicable. I am done with that dealer, and will never go to, or suggest them to anyone. So now I'm stuck in another SUV I don't want. The highlight is it almost gets the mileage the 'Stang did, while looking retarded (SUVs are one thing I universally passionately hate).
 

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Good news!

Contacted the dealer today, and they agree the clutch is shot. They also say it's under warranty, and will be fine. On top of that, they think the 5th gear synchro has some problems, but are waiting for their magical tranny guru to return from vacation. So I will have an answer either tomorrow or Wednesday. Mostly I'm glad they're not fighting about warranty. So new clutch, possibly 5th gear (it likes to crunch), and the svc. mgr. was stating possible tranny replacement if needed. Works for me.

Finally getting somewhere with this. We'll see how many miles I get with the new clutch.
 

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I feel your pain! Bought mine with 50k miles and had to replace it ai about 74k. I put a spec stage 1 in. Do not buy this clutch. It lasted about 4 months. I'm drivin with a smoked clutch until I can find someone to put my stage 2 in. I would try centerforce if I were you. With spec you need to buy a different flywheel. (Waste) hope this helps.
 

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Well, here's the current situation; the car was taken to the dealer on the 9th. It's now the 19th. Nobody has bothered to call me regarding the car. Any updates have been due to me calling. Now I'm a bit ticked at this. There is no reason for something taking this long.

All I'm getting at this point is voicemail, as apparently everyone is busy and unable to talk to me at the dealership. So much for them bragging on customer service, too. Again, avoid Astorg of Parkersburg WV at all costs. They obviously don't care at this point, otherwise I'd have heard something.
 
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