S197 Mustang. Are there different headers for automatic and manual transmissions?

Yes those will work. Not a fun do-it-yourself install though.

buy a keg because you will finish drinking that much beer before you finish with the install

check out LMperformance.com for prices though even though its not needed but I think you can get jethot coated LT's and Midpipe for the same price that is were I got mine.

the problem is i asked this Question because they told me there is a diff in automatic headers and standard ones!! for example what does that mean?

Kooks: Mustang 05-08 Automatic Headers & Mid Pipe, 4.6L 3V, 1 5/8" X 2 1/2", With Catted H-Pipe And 12" Long O2 Ext. Harness

I have been contemplating doing the headers myself also. I have heard of different ways. Like removing the front suspension. I have heard of lifting the motor up and removing the intake. No matter how you do it is going to be fun.

eLLuSioNiST said:

the problem is i asked this Question because they told me there is a diff in automatic headers and standard ones!! for example what does that mean?

Kooks: Mustang 05-08 Automatic Headers & Mid Pipe, 4.6L 3V, 1 5/8" X 2 1/2", With Catted H-Pipe And 12" Long O2 Ext. Harness

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I'm aware of no configuration differences for headers.

Just a web developer's mistake. There are no auto or manual differences in Kook's or any LT headers. Just go to there web site and you will notice there wont be an Automatic Header option

Check this site guys im really confused u gonna find same thing on available options:

Kooks Long Tube Headers- 1 5/8"x 2 1/2" w/Off Road Crossover- 2005+ Mustang GT 4.6L [K6020OX] - $1,338.86$1,204.95 : MarylandSpeed.com- Your First Stop on the Way to Performance!

BKid said:

I have been contemplating doing the headers myself also. I have heard of different ways. Like removing the front suspension. I have heard of lifting the motor up and removing the intake. No matter how you do it is going to be fun.

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Go for it. I did mine on jack stands. you will need to remove the batt, starter, and disconnect the steering shaft from the rack. I replaced the motot mounts at that time. So you will have to disconnect the motor one side at a time. Oh yea I did remove the MM adapter plate on the block too. With the hood up you don't have to worry about any intake problems. Good luck

I brought a used set from a guy with a Auto and Im a auto so I dont know. But Id sasy the headers are the same. looks like from the link you posted its just a difference in them sending you the extension's for the 02 sensors.

The difference you heard may have been for the old SN95 stangs, I think they had a LT header clearance issue with the Automatic transmission.

My dad and I did mine, it took two days in the garage and we had a car lift.


For the passenger side, we lifted the block with a tranny jack and slide the whole passenger side motor mount out. Removed the manifold, slid the header in and bolted it all back up.


The driver side was pretty simple, just had to drop the steering shaft.


:shrug


I dont know, it was worth it in the end. I say this a lot, but I'm one of the few running Hooker Super Competition long tubes.

Eric_S197 said:

My dad and I did mine, it took two days in the garage and we had a car lift.

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What took you so long. 2 day I could have the motor in and out and rebuilt.:hihi::nogrinner:shiny::laugh::bigthumbsup:wavey:shigrin

Just kidding Great Job. I wish I had a lift to do mine. I had to do them on jack stands.

travelers said:

What took you so long. 2 day I could have the motor in and out and rebuilt.:hihi::nogrinner:shiny::laugh::bigthumbsup:wavey:shigrin

Just kidding Great Job. I wish I had a lift to do mine. I had to do them on jack stands.

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Well, next time I'll just call you. Go go gadget buildmotorbot. :scratchchin:happydance:

You have my respect for doing it on jackstands. But being able to stand up and reach for parts has it's limits too. :gringreen:shigrin



I forgot to tighten down the top bolts on the exhaust manifold and ended up smoking the gasket since I just HAD to hear it start up while open header. :nono:


That was a bad project for 6 days at home in the States.

Eric_S197 said:

Well, next time I'll just call you. Go go gadget buildmotorbot. :scratchchin:happydance:

You have my respect for doing it on jackstands. But being able to stand up and reach for parts has it's limits too. :gringreen:shigrin



I forgot to tighten down the top bolts on the exhaust manifold and ended up smoking the gasket since I just HAD to hear it start up while open header. :nono:


That was a bad project for 6 days at home in the States.

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How did it sound with open headers? I thought about it but I had to much else to finish up. I did the headers, motor mounts and the CMDPs and had to load the tune I had for all that. So I had to have it done and back on the ground to load it and start.