[NoLimitStang]

I posted this is the V-6 forum, figured I'd post it here since I own a GT.

I recently bought the ford racing pack one, a cai with tuner, muffers and an oil filter. I am under the pre-owned certified warranty. I was curious if my warranty would stay if I installed the cai myself, or if I had Ford install it would my warranty still be good. It took me several calls...fordracing.com, ford customer support, my salesman, and the parts AND service managers all did not know the answer.

Finally they got me in touch with the manager of used cars, because he had experinece with warranties particulars. He said that no matter who installs the cai, be it myself, the dealership, Henry Ford himself...the warranty would be voided for that part. He said that Ford would look for any reason to void a warranty. Now, if something went wrong in the car that was completely unrelated (his example was power windows) then the warranty would still cover. So basically the warranty is gone with the related parts.

So that said, Im still going to get it done. It seems relatively easy to install, I got the tuner and it looks pretty easy, and I never had the check engine light come on with my 94 gt that I was driving up to last month.

So be wary, warranty owners. Also of note is that my dealership, located about 20 miles northwest of Atlanta, wouldnt do the install. He said they wont touch cai's.

One thing Ive read on the internet is people installing their factory air intake if the check engine light did come on, then take it in. But cant Ford tell if the computer has been changed, even if I flashed it back to Stock?

 

[stlwagon]

Any aftermarket part can be a crapshoot with the warranty. I'm actually glad my warranty is up. As for the flashing, Ford can tell that the PCM was accessed but not what was done to it. Losing electrical power will do the same thing.

 

[Silverstang07]

stlwagon is right, when we hook a scan tool up to a car that has been programed b4, we cant tell anything..........if you return the car to "stock" trim right b4 you bring it in, it WILL tell us that the car has not completed a full drive cycle that it needs to do to check if everything is functioning properly (the car scans 02 sensors, etc, etc).......but we cannot void your warranty solely on that, because heck, you might have just had the battery unhooked...........the CAI will not void your warranty as long the part that breaks is not directly related to the intake. (if you come in with your air/fuel ratio screwed up, no warranty).......there are exceptions to all of this said, so if you own another vehicle, dont think i cant prove a chip was in it......the new diesel will tell me straight up if it had one. But a stang', dont worry about it!!! lol

 

[stlwagon]

stlwagon is right, when we hook a scan tool up to a car that has been programed b4, we cant tell anything..........if you return the car to "stock" trim right b4 you bring it in, it WILL tell us that the car has not completed a full drive cycle that it needs to do to check if everything is functioning properly (the car scans 02 sensors, etc, etc).......but we cannot void your warranty solely on that, because heck, you might have just had the battery unhooked...........

Nice to finally have confirmation from the source! :bigthumbsup

 

[harrison]

I'd like the part number for the 100HP K&N. I had a 40HP K&N on my motorcycle! Between the K&N AND the Amsoil sticker, I will be really fast.:gringreen

Ok, so I am at work and I am on lunch and really really bored.

 

[NoLimitStang]

stlwagon is right, when we hook a scan tool up to a car that has been programed b4, we cant tell anything..........if you return the car to "stock" trim right b4 you bring it in, it WILL tell us that the car has not completed a full drive cycle that it needs to do to check if everything is functioning properly (the car scans 02 sensors, etc, etc).......but we cannot void your warranty solely on that, because heck, you might have just had the battery unhooked...........the CAI will not void your warranty as long the part that breaks is not directly related to the intake. (if you come in with your air/fuel ratio screwed up, no warranty).......there are exceptions to all of this said, so if you own another vehicle, dont think i cant prove a chip was in it......the new diesel will tell me straight up if it had one. But a stang', dont worry about it!!! lol

Cool, good info. Thanks.

 

[2008GT]

stlwagon is right, when we hook a scan tool up to a car that has been programed b4, we cant tell anything..........if you return the car to "stock" trim right b4 you bring it in, it WILL tell us that the car has not completed a full drive cycle that it needs to do to check if everything is functioning properly (the car scans 02 sensors, etc, etc).......but we cannot void your warranty solely on that, because heck, you might have just had the battery unhooked...........the CAI will not void your warranty as long the part that breaks is not directly related to the intake. (if you come in with your air/fuel ratio screwed up, no warranty).......there are exceptions to all of this said, so if you own another vehicle, dont think i cant prove a chip was in it......the new diesel will tell me straight up if it had one. But a stang', dont worry about it!!! lol

OK whats is a full drive cycle? How long you have to drive it to be a full cycle? Also you say when you hook up a scan tool to a car that has been programmed (with a new cai tune) you can not tell anything is different?

 

[stlwagon]

Here's information on the Ford OBDII drive cycle:
The following procedure is designed to execute and complete the OBDII monitors and to clear the Ford P1000, I/M readiness code. To complete a specific monitor for repair verification, follow steps 1 through 4, then continue with the step described by the appropriate monitor found under the "OBDII Monitor Exercised" column. When the ambient air temperature is outside 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100° F), or the altitude is above 2438 meters (8000 feet), the EVAP monitor will not run. If the P1000 code must be cleared in these conditions, the PCM must detect them once (twice on some applications) before the EVAP monitor can be "bypassed" and the P1000 cleared. The Evap "bypassing" procedure is described in the following drive cycle.
The OBDII Drive Cycle will be performed using a scan tool. Consult the instruction manual for each described function.


Drive Cycle Recommendations:

Most OBDII monitors will complete more readily using a "steady foot" driving style during cruise or acceleration modes. Operating the throttle in a "smooth" fashion will minimize the time required for monitor completion.

Fuel tank level should be between 1/2 and 3/4 fill with 3/4 fill being the most desirable.

The Evaporative Monitor can only operate during the first 30 minutes of engine operation. When executing the procedure for this monitor, stay in part throttle mode and drive in a smooth fashion to minimize "fuel slosh".

 

[2008GT]

Here's information on the Ford OBDII drive cycle:
The following procedure is designed to execute and complete the OBDII monitors and to clear the Ford P1000, I/M readiness code. To complete a specific monitor for repair verification, follow steps 1 through 4, then continue with the step described by the appropriate monitor found under the "OBDII Monitor Exercised" column. When the ambient air temperature is outside 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100° F), or the altitude is above 2438 meters (8000 feet), the EVAP monitor will not run. If the P1000 code must be cleared in these conditions, the PCM must detect them once (twice on some applications) before the EVAP monitor can be "bypassed" and the P1000 cleared. The Evap "bypassing" procedure is described in the following drive cycle.
The OBDII Drive Cycle will be performed using a scan tool. Consult the instruction manual for each described function.


Drive Cycle Recommendations:

Most OBDII monitors will complete more readily using a "steady foot" driving style during cruise or acceleration modes. Operating the throttle in a "smooth" fashion will minimize the time required for monitor completion.

Fuel tank level should be between 1/2 and 3/4 fill with 3/4 fill being the most desirable.

The Evaporative Monitor can only operate during the first 30 minutes of engine operation. When executing the procedure for this monitor, stay in part throttle mode and drive in a smooth fashion to minimize "fuel slosh".

Still does not give me an amount of time that is required to complete the readings of a full cycle. Not trying to be a smartass or anything just wantint to know the amount of time it takes to reflash before taking it in to be serviced.

 

[Guest]

Still does not give me an amount of time that is required to complete the readings of a full cycle. Not trying to be a smartass or anything just wantint to know the amount of time it takes to reflash before taking it in to be serviced.

No set limit. Just keep on scanning for DTC P1000. If it's not there, then you have completed a full drive cycle. Honestly, though, I would not worry about it.

 

[2008GT]

Thank you man. I just want to be an informed type of dude!