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Otay Fellas, here is the skinny on the Saleen puppy: For those of you just tuning in, here are my mods:

05 GT with Saleen Series VI S/C
Ford SVT Shorty headers
6.5# JDM Pulley upgrade and belt
#39 injectors (Ford Cobra)
90mm MAF (JDM Option) (Lightening)
Stock H Pipe (yes it's stock)
Magnaflow axle backs
SB High flow Air Filter (JDM Air box on the way)
JDM custom SCT Tune (91 octane)

Okay, the install is pretty easy, if you're not MR Magoo, and you have some common sence with mechanical things. You DO need to know how to use a torque wrench and a soldering iron and read instructions very carefully.

As for performance, well...... IT'S JUST CARRRAAAZZZYYY!!! :clap
I installed the kit, and then drove 900 miles from Louisiana to New Mexico. (had to get away from them cajuns!!) Averaged 21.3 MPG while going from 180ft to 6000ft in elevation on the trip. Car averages about 16 MPG in town if you're just tooling around about 12 if your hammering on her all the time. AHHHH, but what about the numbers........Well here you go. (See Attachment)
Keep in mind on these numbers.

1. Dynoed at 5000FT
2. Car pulls 4.75 - 5.00 Ibs of boost up here, 6.5 at sea level
3. This is first "out of the box" tune from JDM (this is the data log dyno run)
4. I will have another dyno run in a week or so after tweaking the tune a bit.
5. Tuned for only 91 Octane

After some minor tweaking, I should see 410-415 at the rear wheel!!

Overall, I'm very impressed with the setup. The drivability is second to none. When JIM said it drives like a stocker, just with more power, he is correct. No stalling, stumbling, hesitation, weird on/off throttle stuff at all. Just smooth, seamless power delivery from 2000 to 6500 RPM, to be honest, when I first drove it, it didn't feel as fast as a thought it would until I looked at the speedo!!!! It's very deceptive since it's so smooth. I will post more feedback soon. Jim if you see this, I have already sent the dyno runs and datalogs to ya. Great work!!!!
 

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:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

is that the stock air intake hose?
 

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nonsensez9 said:
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

is that the stock air intake hose?
yep, it's even got stock h pipe in her. but that is a 90mm Lightening MAF in front of the stock intake. I think another 40 horses is in the H-pipe, tune tweaking, and intake pipe. This is with only 6 psi!!!!
 

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Wow!

Wow! Absolutely beautiful! :thumbsup

A few questions for you, Chuckles:
  • What did the whole setup cost? Can you breakdown the prices?
  • How long did it take to do the whole install?
  • Anything particularly quirky or hokie with the install?
  • Does the S/C whine; is it loud?
I'm so jealous...this setup is what I'm shooting for! Nice job!
 

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right there with loudog - completely envious of you. :nogrinner :green :grinroll:

I have one question - was the JDM tune made for the SC - did Saleen work with them on the tune?
The mechanical part I am not worried about, I used to perform 100 hours tear-downs of aircraft engines so that does not scare. I just need to know how to get the tune taken care of. And shesh, Saleen is only a few blocks away from my office.

Thanks much - and DAMN FINE JOB!!!!!! :worship :worship :worship
 

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Wow, if you come to Florida, you can do mine up for me! I'll even put you in the spare bedroom, and put the dog on the couch!:thumbsup

Nice job! I'm dying with envy!:cooldude:
 

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humada humada humada

Nice setup!:shocked:

(Hmm... if I do this, all I can think of is how much a Divorce lawer will cost )
( Ya know any? :shigrin)

 

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Thanks so much for the complements.:thumbsup

Whole setup was about 6k, and took 10-12 hours to install with hand tools in garage.
The only "hokey" thing was the B+ and Reg Wire extensions. You have to solder these. Supposedly Saleen is including pigtails in their newer kits.
The S/C is actually very quiet, you don't know its there unless you stand on it. Much quieter than CF units.

I hope to have final tune numbers in a week or two:clap

loudog said:
Wow! Absolutely beautiful! :thumbsup

A few questions for you, Chuckles:

  • What did the whole setup cost? Can you breakdown the prices?
  • How long did it take to do the whole install?
  • Anything particularly quirky or hokie with the install?
  • Does the S/C whine; is it loud?
I'm so jealous...this setup is what I'm shooting for! Nice job!
 

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Thanks guys;) If you want specifics, or pics of install, PM me. I'll be glad to help.
 

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Thanks! As for the tune, I don't think JDM works with Saleen, but JDM owns their own Saleen S/C 05 GT and has done most of their R&D on this car and Joe Amato's (They did the install on his). The tune I have is relatively mild (91 octane), and I'm pushing 396RWHP with factory H pipe and factory intake pipe at 6psi. It's actually easier than the Saleen way. With Saleen, you have to remove your PCM and send to them for programming. and you get one tune. With JDM kit, you get a SCT X2 with 3 custom tunes programmed for you, and all you do is a 30 second flash before you start the car after the S/C install. The driveability is great!!

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right there with loudog - completely envious of you. :nogrinner :green :grinroll:

I have one question - was the JDM tune made for the SC - did Saleen work with them on the tune?
The mechanical part I am not worried about, I used to perform 100 hours tear-downs of aircraft engines so that does not scare. I just need to know how to get the tune taken care of. And shesh, Saleen is only a few blocks away from my office.

Thanks much - and DAMN FINE JOB!!!!!! :worship :worship :worship
 

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I am debating a roots type( Ken Bell or Whipple) or one like yours. Did you think over that as well?
It looks great! I dont want to push a huge amount of boost in mine. But, to me, the KB looks like a nice clean install.
 

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As far as I know, the Whipple is a positive displacement twin screw, like the Saleen, I may be wrong, but check. Yes, I spent many weeks researching the differences between Centrifugal (Vortech), and PD(Saleen, KB, Whipple). What sold me on the PD unit, is the driveabilty of them. The power curve of the PD unit is much lower. You have 400 RWTQ at 2000 RPM!! This is much more "Steetable" power, IMO. If you want to road race, and are always in teh high end of the RPM curve, then the CF units are a better deal. (lighter, cooler, potential for more peak power). But I built this car as a street killa. It looks completely stock on the outside, right down to factory tires. The debate between a PD and a CF blower is as old as time, with good reason, they really have different applications, imo.

Now as for the difference between a "Roots" PD unit and a "Lysholm" twin screw style. The twin screw beats the roots type hands down. Since they both are PD type blowers, their operating characteristics will be similar, but the twin screw is much more efficient. See attachment (Courtesy Whipple Industries)


WillCarson said:
I am debating a roots type( Ken Bell or Whipple) or one like yours. Did you think over that as well?
It looks great! I dont want to push a huge amount of boost in mine. But, to me, the KB looks like a nice clean install.
 

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Congrats on the install and thanks for sharing. The SALEEN unit is really showing some impressive numbers!
 

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chuckles said:
I spent many weeks researching the differences between Centrifugal (Vortech), and PD(Saleen, KB, Whipple). What sold me on the PD unit, is the driveabilty of them. The power curve of the PD unit is much lower. You have 400 RWTQ at 2000 RPM!! This is much more "Steetable" power, IMO. If you want to road race, and are always in teh high end of the RPM curve, then the CF units are a better deal. (lighter, cooler, potential for more peak power). But I built this car as a street killa. It looks completely stock on the outside, right down to factory tires. The debate between a PD and a CF blower is as old as time, with good reason, they really have different applications, imo.

Now as for the difference between a "Roots" PD unit and a "Lysholm" twin screw style. The twin screw beats the roots type hands down. Since they both are PD type blowers, their operating characteristics will be similar, but the twin screw is much more efficient.
First off GREAT freakin Job !!!! :thumbsup & Thanks for all the helpful info. I'm right on the fence on the saleen S/c & this just about pushed me over.
My only hesitation is whether I get the :madas: GT500 or Not .
 

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thanks for all the compliments. :shiny: It's appreciated.

FYI, I have seen a setup just like mine, with the exception of Long Tube headers, off-road X-pipe, and Loudmouth SLP exhaust, pull 440RWHP on 93 octane tune with 6psi boost! My goal is to get to 410-415 with factory H-pipe, SVT Shorty headers, and 91 tune on 6psi. I'm at 396 now, so I think we can pull it in the tune. I'll keep everyone posted.
 

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I saw the Saleen Supercharger on their site the other day and liked what I saw. And now, we have a test case for one installed. It will be interesting to see what you come up with down the road to tweek it more. One question....since most of the other Superchargers (Vortec & Paxton to name a few) use an intercooler setup, I wonder why Saleen does not? Is there an option for one? Just curious.

Enjoy the added power!
 

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Actually, it is aftercooled with a 2 stage Air/water aftercooler setup. It has its own separate cooling system, including electric pump, reservior, and heat exchanger/radiator. Intake air temps are usually 110-125 degrees with it 95 outside. The aftercooler is inside the supercharger assembly, and the radiator is out in front, under the bumper in the air stream.



wsd42 said:
I saw the Saleen Supercharger on their site the other day and liked what I saw. And now, we have a test case for one installed. It will be interesting to see what you come up with down the road to tweek it more. One question....since most of the other Superchargers (Vortec & Paxton to name a few) use an intercooler setup, I wonder why Saleen does not? Is there an option for one? Just curious.

Enjoy the added power!
 

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Dear Chuckles,

Congratulations on your installation...

I'm sure you are very proud!!!

I have researched these S/Cs and also decided on Saleen because of the appearance, quality and performance...

I have to also say that if I can't get my hands on a GT500, I'll definitely buy the Saleen unit for my ride...

If so, I'll be probably the only 2005 GT w/automatic in Chicago to be supercharged...

Thanks again for the great response...

Dave
 

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Now it is all clear.... Saleen's information on their SC does mention internal intercooler, but no real detail. Thanks for the added info! Now all I need is an extra 5K!
 
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