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what are the advantages of long tube over shorty headers?it seems to me that shorty headers can use the stock cats. but long tubes look like they have more gains.btw theres a new long tube headers for the V6 from MAC(i think its from MAC.)
 

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Long tubes will give you more power gains. And yes, you can keep the stock cats w/ shorties. With long tubes, you can't keep the stock h-pipe.
 

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so is there a replacement h-pipe you get when you buy long tubes or do you have to have one made??:?:
 

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you can buy new H-Pipes with catalatic converters to stay legal or you can get offroad ones for cheaper and more power (and louder :) Mac has an offroad H pipe for around 150 i belive. theres also an X-Pipe which gives you more power but the drawback for me is a higher pitched exhaust note, and with the right exhaust sounds like an angry bee or those ricer cans on ebay.
 
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