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Strange 10 way adjustable shocks and struts

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Hey everyone I have a few question about suspension. I'm going to be using 4 cylinder springs up front and stock in back. I've heard this will cause the car not to tale corners as good as stock. I plan on getting strange adjustable shocks and struts also would changing the front stiffer or softer in front than in back help compensate for the softer springs? Same thing goes for removing the front sway bar would having the front struts firmer or softer help it feel like I still have on one?
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Hmmm, doubt it.

All shocks/struts do is dampen (slow down) the rate at which a spring compresses and rebounds, and also acts to stabilize so that when the spring is compressed and consequently rebounds that the car does not bounce excessively.

Sway bars help to equalize the forces between the two sides of the vehicle; in a situation such as a hard turn it would apply additional downward force to the inside tire as to help keep good tire contact. They do help a little with body roll, but controlling that is primarily a function of the springs. IMO, I would leave the sway bar on for the street and remove only for track days. Even more IMO, first time out to the track I would keep it on, then remove it the next time out and compare the difference in performance. It is generally helpful for weight transfer to remove it, but I have a feeling you might find that it's helpfulness may not be worth the effort of repeatedly removing and re-installing. All you can do is give it a try there... Watch your short times, that will tell you if it's making a worthwhile difference or not.

As far as setting up the shocks, the general recommendation regardless of what springs are used is to start out in the middle setting and then adjust stiffness +/- gradually over the course of some test driving. Those 4cyl springs.... It's been a long time since I drove a 4cyl Fox but I don't think the street characteristics with them (also keeping in mind the extra weight of your engine vs the weight they were originally intended to support) will be too bad. It will definitely be subject to more body roll in cornering and lean during braking but I think once you get the shocks dialed in that it will ride comfortably and not sacrifice too much in the way of handling - just kind of my hunch there.
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With 4 cylinder springs up front with no swaybar, and stock springs in the back, the car will feel soft and floaty. Installing the Strange 10-way shocks and struts (I'd recommend FOX length, not SN95) will give you the ability to run the shocks & struts stiffer (8-10) to minimize the floaty feeling. I did this on my 04 GT daily driver several years ago and it worked well.
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With 4 cylinder springs up front with no swaybar, and stock springs in the back, the car will feel soft and floaty. Installing the Strange 10-way shocks and struts (I'd recommend FOX length, not SN95) will give you the ability to run the shocks & struts stiffer (8-10) to minimize the floaty feeling. I did this on my 04 GT daily driver several years ago and it worked well.
since ill have my stock 03 springs in back should I still get fox shocks for the back and just get the struts to match the front springs or would it be better to have a mtaching pair of shocks and struts. also should i run something like 8 in the front and 8 in the back or 8 in the front and like 5 in the back. and one last thing would stiffening it up make it feel any closer to stock?
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Hmmm, doubt it.

All shocks/struts do is dampen (slow down) the rate at which a spring compresses and rebounds, and also acts to stabilize so that when the spring is compressed and consequently rebounds that the car does not bounce excessively.

Sway bars help to equalize the forces between the two sides of the vehicle; in a situation such as a hard turn it would apply additional downward force to the inside tire as to help keep good tire contact. They do help a little with body roll, but controlling that is primarily a function of the springs. IMO, I would leave the sway bar on for the street and remove only for track days. Even more IMO, first time out to the track I would keep it on, then remove it the next time out and compare the difference in performance. It is generally helpful for weight transfer to remove it, but I have a feeling you might find that it's helpfulness may not be worth the effort of repeatedly removing and re-installing. All you can do is give it a try there... Watch your short times, that will tell you if it's making a worthwhile difference or not.

As far as setting up the shocks, the general recommendation regardless of what springs are used is to start out in the middle setting and then adjust stiffness +/- gradually over the course of some test driving. Those 4cyl springs.... It's been a long time since I drove a 4cyl Fox but I don't think the street characteristics with them (also keeping in mind the extra weight of your engine vs the weight they were originally intended to support) will be too bad. It will definitely be subject to more body roll in cornering and lean during braking but I think once you get the shocks dialed in that it will ride comfortably and not sacrifice too much in the way of handling - just kind of my hunch there.
thanks ya I didnt know if I wanted to just remove the sway bar or just disconnect it on track day thats why I asked about just removing it all together it would be easier to simple have it gone and just adjust my shocks and struts setting and be done. but ill take your advice and try it with different runs down the track (on, off, disconnected) to see if it helps a lot and is worth the trouble
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since ill have my stock 03 springs in back should I still get fox shocks for the back and just get the struts to match the front springs or would it be better to have a mtaching pair of shocks and struts. also should i run something like 8 in the front and 8 in the back or 8 in the front and like 5 in the back. and one last thing would stiffening it up make it feel any closer to stock?
There's not a specific shock and strut setting which is perfect. It's more of a *set it to your preference* deal. I think I drove around on 8F and 8R. (it's been like 7 or 8 years... memory is foggy)

I would still go with Fox length all the way around, but you could go either way in the back.
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There's not a specific shock and strut setting which is perfect. It's more of a *set it to your preference* deal. I think I drove around on 8F and 8R. (it's been like 7 or 8 years... memory is foggy)

I would still go with Fox length all the way around, but you could go either way in the back.
okay cool thanks. one last question how would a car feel with it being 5 front and 5 rear and then how would it feel if I tried what you used 8 front and 8 rear. never had adjustable shocks and struts so I don't know what it would feel like at a softer setting compared to a harder one.
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It just feels how it sounds. 8-10 is stiffer and 3-5 is not. 8-10 corners flatter but you feel the bumps more. 3-5 rides smoother, but has more body roll when you turn.
okay thanks a lot got my springs ready to go in and now going to order my strange shocks and struts within a few days. then wait for it to warm up
okay thanks a lot got my springs ready to go in and now going to order my strange shocks and struts within a few days. then wait for it to warm up
Cool. If you order them from UPR, I'll throw in a free t-shirt and some stickers! 561.588.6630.
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