ssoss said:OK, now I just used that subject to catch your attention... but really, after all this time drooling over the GT and all those horses, I finally got to test drive one.
And to be honest, I wasn't really that impressed. I mean, I'll need to try again to feel certain about it, but I drive the manual tranny V6 every day, and in my initial comparison, the GT tranny did not feel as had hoped.
OK, now I know if you race, the shorter throw shifter is for you. And I could definately feel the extra horsies pushin the car. But in first and second gear, without anyone to race, it didn't seem that much faster. In all honesty, I didn't have a chance to open it up on the highway.
But speed and power aside, the clutch pedal was very easy, too easy, to push to the floor. There's no feedback at all.
The stick kinda reminded me of some old video game like Spy Hunter. In the V6, I feel the gears meshing together - 'least that's what it feels like I'm feeling. In the GT, there's no tension in the shifter, there's no throw, no soft meshing feeling as you hit the spot for the gear. It's just like playing a video game. I've heard it described as notchy, and I'd agree.
The GT engine noise was also noticably louder. I'm not talking about exterior exhaust growl, but rather the engine compartment whine. I was hoping the GT would eliminate that sound more then enhance it, since the V6 is filled with all these chains that seem to make it loud and the GT doesn't have those.
Anyway, I'm not decided, but I just thought it was time for all you elitist GT suckers to eat some of your own medice for a change. I'm thinkin' I like my V6 and it's better then your GT, even if you do kick my ass in a race.
Does anyone know WHY I'm feeling these differences? Is there a totally different set of (better) mechanics that goes into the GT tranny? I know it's a different tranny, but I'm wondering what makes the feel so different. Which car is likely to be more mechanically durable in the long run? It's one of my main concerns.
But just to let you know I'm not closed-minded, I'll grudgingly admit, even though I wasn't as impressed as I hoped I'd be, I still have a spark for the ultra-cool GT.
But I'm also a bit happier with my car for now!
Boglin said:Someone just walked into the saloon lookin' for a fight. There's a gonna be a shoot out. :gringreen
ssoss said:OK, now I just used that subject to catch your attention... but really, after all this time drooling over the GT and all those horses, I finally got to test drive one.
And to be honest, I wasn't really that impressed. I mean, I'll need to try again to feel certain about it, but I drive the manual tranny V6 every day, and in my initial comparison, the GT tranny did not feel as had hoped.
OK, now I know if you race, the shorter throw shifter is for you. And I could definately feel the extra horsies pushin the car. But in first and second gear, without anyone to race, it didn't seem that much faster. In all honesty, I didn't have a chance to open it up on the highway.
But speed and power aside, the clutch pedal was very easy, too easy, to push to the floor. There's no feedback at all.
The stick kinda reminded me of some old video game like Spy Hunter. In the V6, I feel the gears meshing together - 'least that's what it feels like I'm feeling. In the GT, there's no tension in the shifter, there's no throw, no soft meshing feeling as you hit the spot for the gear. It's just like playing a video game. I've heard it described as notchy, and I'd agree.
The GT engine noise was also noticably louder. I'm not talking about exterior exhaust growl, but rather the engine compartment whine. I was hoping the GT would eliminate that sound more then enhance it, since the V6 is filled with all these chains that seem to make it loud and the GT doesn't have those.
Anyway, I'm not decided, but I just thought it was time for all you elitist GT suckers to eat some of your own medice for a change. I'm thinkin' I like my V6 and it's better then your GT, even if you do kick my ass in a race.
Does anyone know WHY I'm feeling these differences? Is there a totally different set of (better) mechanics that goes into the GT tranny? I know it's a different tranny, but I'm wondering what makes the feel so different. Which car is likely to be more mechanically durable in the long run? It's one of my main concerns.
But just to let you know I'm not closed-minded, I'll grudgingly admit, even though I wasn't as impressed as I hoped I'd be, I still have a spark for the ultra-cool GT.
But I'm also a bit happier with my car for now!
lovcom said:It sounds like you're old school, and/or over 50? :wavey
Ford really did a poor job with quality, dependability, and refinement. Lets all not delude ourselves on that. :wavey
ford4v429 said:I think I'll adapt just fine to the 4.6 though...I sure hope no disappointments anyways![]()
lovcom said:It sounds like you're old school, and/or over 50? :wavey
I too have the V6 and here is what it wrong with the V6:
Shifter throw way too long.
Feel of stick is too notchy, giving the feeling of obstructions in the movement.
The clutch is easy as it should be.
The gas pedel is too numb feeling, to vague, vertually no feedback.
At the end of the day, our V6 & V8 Mustangs are not refined, not polished up like other brands. Is anyone man enough to agree on this, or will you be blinded by brand-loyalty? Well, I knew all this before I bought the v6, so why did I buy it? I love the body, the retro-interior/exterior, and it is fun to drive, but lets all be honest....it's a great car but it is not very refined as it should be....and to think otherwise explains why both Ford and Chevy are eating kaka and doing the lay-off thing...it's this old school mantality that keeps the foreign makes ahead in refinement, and quality.
I love my V6 but I have no dillusions, nor will I lie to myself....I hope none of you do either. :winks
For straight line racing the v8 is great fun. Straight line with auto-tranny is sissy racing...sorry guys but it takes little skill to wait for the green light to smack the pedel to the floor...big deal :sleeping:
For the "genre" of car that the Mustang is, the v8 is better then the v6, and this coming from a v6 owner.
Lets all stop idealizing, romantizing, and dissing other brands like we use to do with bikes back in Jr. High School.
For what it is, the Mustang v6 is a great car for it's styling and fun factor, and the V8 especially for it's performance, but that is all.
Ford really did a poor job with quality, dependability, and refinement. Lets all not delude ourselves on that. :wavey
kscoyote said:I don't this guy really has a 'stang . . . he's been dissing everything the past few weeks.
P.S. I'm 36, I'm one of the guys who built Ford restomods and street machines in the 80s and 90s. I put together a 302, a 351, and a 390. (Tried to work with the 255 (what a waste)).
I've NEVER been stranded by any of my cars. I HAVE picked up friends in their Subarus, Hondas, Suzukis (seemed like 1ce a week), and mitsubishis when their cars failed.
Take care of the car, the car takes care of you.
lovcom said:Well KSCoyote, I guess you're your normal intolarant to other view self.
For the record, I do have a 2006 White V6 Prem w/manual. I'm happy with it but not overtly because as good as it looks and as fun as it is to drive, there is still lots of room for Ford to refine and improve, and if you don't agree, then I would suggest you raise your standards for quality.
You can brag about "rescuing" your Subaru/Toyota/Honda friends all you want but that "fact" does not jive with Consumer-Reports, nor reality. Just ask any honest all-brand mechanic and he'll tell you that the domestics have many more problems then most Japanese brands.
So don't get mad at me for voicing the truth...it is what it is. Have you yet checked out what Consumer-Reports says about our beloved 05-06 Mustangs? You're not going to like it.
This is not to say the Mustangs are crap...rather, our Mustangs are great looking, big-fun, very powerful cars that need better refinement by Ford.
Get mad at Ford, not me.
I would suggest you improve your tolerance-abilities.
This forum has room for other alternative views and opinions.
ssoss said:I bet you can pick up that GT for under 26K at a dealership in Georgia. They have several in stock and are charging way less then some others!
Forgot the name of the dealer now but if you need it I can get it for you.
kscoyote said:Dude, My UNCLE is an all brand mechanic, I've worked on ALL BRANDS.
If you want refinement, get a Mercedes.
Sporty Cars aren't supposed to be refined.
Jeez, man. Drive a Lamborghini - I don't think there's a single "refined" part on the car, from it's V-10 to the tranny.
Ferrari is better, but "refinement" isn't part of the Ferrari experience.
Consumer Reports thinks the Taurus is a BEST BUY.
What do I care what Consumer Reports thinks? Their test results come from it's READERS, who average age 60.
GO buy a TAURUS!!
lovcom said:The Taurus doesn't have a sexy retro-67-71 body style of the new Mustangs, nor is the Taurus half as much fun to drive as the Mustangs. True Honda has their own picadilloes too, but far less. I would have bought the Acura RSX as it is hyper-refined but it has a bland so-so body, and is smaller then the Mustang. I got the Mustang for the same reasons some men marry sexy models...for it's looks, and not for it's reliability....which can sometimes be a bad reason...I learned that this mind of thinking may be fine with some cars, but never with choice in women. I left my sexy model Bulgarian wife because aside from her near perfect Victoria-Secret body, she was a horrible mate. Still, even with my complaints of the Mustang, I still love it. Like you and many others here, I love my Mustang, but I also have no dillusions of it's short-comings either. And is the Mustang really a "sports-car"? Just because it's a muscle care does not make it a sports car in my opinion. It's a very fast fun car, but I never thought of it as a serious sports car....it certainly does not handle like a true sports car...it's mission is straight-line...in my mind a true sports car does better in the twisties. Just my opinion.
lovcom said:And is the Mustang really a "sports-car"? Just because it's a muscle care does not make it a sports car in my opinion. It's a very fast fun car, but I never thought of it as a serious sports car....it certainly does not handle like a true sports car...it's mission is straight-line...in my mind a true sports car does better in the twisties. Just my opinion.
lovcom said:The Taurus doesn't have a sexy retro-67-71 body style of the new Mustangs, nor is the Taurus half as much fun to drive as the Mustangs. True Honda has their own picadilloes too, but far less. I would have bought the Acura RSX as it is hyper-refined but it has a bland so-so body, and is smaller then the Mustang. I got the Mustang for the same reasons some men marry sexy models...for it's looks, and not for it's reliability....which can sometimes be a bad reason...I learned that this mind of thinking may be fine with some cars, but never with choice in women. I left my sexy model Bulgarian wife because aside from her near perfect Victoria-Secret body, she was a horrible mate. Still, even with my complaints of the Mustang, I still love it. Like you and many others here, I love my Mustang, but I also have no dillusions of it's short-comings either. And is the Mustang really a "sports-car"? Just because it's a muscle care does not make it a sports car in my opinion. It's a very fast fun car, but I never thought of it as a serious sports car....it certainly does not handle like a true sports car...it's mission is straight-line...in my mind a true sports car does better in the twisties. Just my opinion.
kscoyote said:It won the Grand Am Cup series.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/publish/Ford_Racing_Mustang_FR500C_Clinches_Grand-Am_Championship.shtml
Sports depends on the Sport, doesn't it? Drag Racing is ALSO a sport.
It's in a faster class than the "neo-" sports cars, i.e. miata, etc as far as road racing.
What's your sport?
Came in 3rd behind the Viper and GTO in Drifting.
Which Sport?
SO.
-You would pick an NSX over a FERRARI? because of "refinement."
You are definitely a CR reader.