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...compared to the popular 255 wide front. I ordered some Nitto 555's at Discount Tire. They are also gonna test fit a 275 wide in the front and 295 wide in the rear to let me decide if I like it. I'm coming off a 255 front and 275 rear. While I know 295's are not a problem in the rear, I haven't seen any comment on 275's in the front. Will it be significantly stiffer to steer because of the total 40mm added rubber contact? Is there even a performance advantage or disadvantage to it? Hydroplaning? Does the added rotational mass make it significantly worse to drive?

Thanks in advance for any reply.

Specifically, I currently have Nitto 555 (street)
275/40R18 in rear on 10" FR500 wheels
255/45R18 in front on 9" FR500 wheels

Moving to Nitto 555 (street)
295/45R18 rear
255/45R18 front with an option to go 275/40R18
 

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I am running 255/40/18's front & 275/40/18's rear. I added 5/16" spacers all around for a wider stance and it helps in the twisty's. You might consider spacers for the pony? The 275's will fit the front but I don't know about the performance advantage. Norm Peterson can chime in to help you, ping him. Wider tires will hydro. I do 55 mph in standing water or pull off a wait it out!
 

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I forgot to mention... my reason for moving from 275 to 295 in the rear is because I spin my tires too easily. I have people saying that they have lesser than that and yet they run 305's for better hookup. This is my first 450 RWHP (and only) car so I have no personal experience to compare. So this is why I went for the extra 20mm (40mm total) of rubber contact on both rear tires. Any why 295's? Aside from potential rubbing issues, it seems like anything over 295's are all in drag race track tire form. I know I'm not tracking so Im staying with street tires.

My next worry is understeer. With added push from the rear tires, will there be enough grip in the front to turn the car? Do I need to switch to a lighter front sway bar to keep both front wheels planted through turns?

Sometimes I think the heck with it... It's a street car. Just concentrate on looks. At-the-limits performance don't even matter that much. If it hooks up from stop light to stop light, then that's good enough. :yup:
 

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...compared to the popular 255 wide front. I ordered some Nitto 555's at Discount Tire. They are also gonna test fit a 275 wide in the front and 295 wide in the rear to let me decide if I like it. I'm coming off a 255 front and 275 rear. While I know 295's are not a problem in the rear, I haven't seen any comment on 275's in the front. Will it be significantly stiffer to steer because of the total 40mm added rubber contact?
Nothing I ever noticed, and that was with 285/35's on 18x11 wheels. Probably more negative camber than you're running, though.

Some people on another Mustang forum have experienced tramlining with 275/40's (9.5" GT500 wheels, which shouldn't make too much difference).


Is there even a performance advantage or disadvantage to it?
Certainly there is during any hard driving, because the understeer should be a little milder. Over any extended session of hard driving, larger front tires will tolerate it longer before overheating and turning "greasy". If you've got a wide enough wheel, you'll have slightly 'crisper' turn-in response (the car will respond a little quicker to your steering inputs, kind of like it actually wants to turn).


Hydroplaning?
This is going to be hugely dependent on your tire choice, but it doesn't have to be any more of a problem than with the OE size. In the first video, speeds are ranging from about 40 through the slow turn just past the bridge to a little over 110 mph down the main straight on a clear lap toward the end (obviously this wasn't tried on any public street or highway, but it's nice to think how much better off you'd be at, say, 65 mph). Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I doubt that any of the Nittos are quite that good in the wet. For sure, the 235/50-18 BFG KDWS tire that were the OE tires on my car were never even close to that good, not even new. And that's with them being about 2" narrower than the Michelins.

In the second video, you can see that as good as the Michelins are when everything is wet, you can't run nearly as hard as you can in the dry when you hit a wet spot (duh!). Especially with cool temperatures (50-ish) and max-performance summer tires (still the Michelins). Watch very closely for the little twitch around 1:57. No stability control, TC off. The BFG's would have snapped around a bit further except that I wouldn't have trusted them enough to be going that hard in the first place. Tires do make the difference here.


Does the added rotational mass make it significantly worse to drive?
I doubt you'd ever notice it. Dragstrip and autocross timing (to 0.001 second or better) can pick it up, but a difference of 0.1 - 0.2 seconds out of every 40 at autocross or 0.050 second in the quarter mile for 20 lbs more total tire weight is not something many people can feel.


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Thanks Norm!
 

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Norm summed it all up pretty good, so I'll just add my little tid-bit. Been running 275-40/18 Cooper RS3's all around on the Roush since it was new. No problems in any category you asked about. Wife has GT Vert, running 235/50-18. When I've driven it, don't really feel any difference than with mine, even with 150hp difference. Have tracked the Roush many times on the RS3's and once they get heated up, do very well. Yea, wider tires, 185 or even 305's will help with traction, but so will the type/brand of tire. Some cars with lots of hp and tq, may even consider street slicks for added traction, but they suck when its wet.
 

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Norm covered all the bases but I'll also give a +1 on the tire choice. That's more critical than the width increase. Heck, think of all the drag cars running a 275 tire. Granted, it's a slick or street radial, but you get the idea...
The 555's are decent, but there are better ones out there. I've been running Nitto INVO's (295/39/20) on the rear of mine and I can say that even when they're worn out, they're still good in the wet.
I'm looking at the Hankook Ventus V12's 275/40/18 for my next purchase (changing to 18's). It's worth shopping around.
 

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Norm covered all the bases but I'll also give a +1 on the tire choice. That's more critical than the width increase. Heck, think of all the drag cars running a 275 tire. Granted, it's a slick or street radial, but you get the idea...
The 555's are decent, but there are better ones out there. I've been running Nitto INVO's (295/39/20) on the rear of mine and I can say that even when they're worn out, they're still good in the wet.
I'm looking at the Hankook Ventus V12's 275/40/18 for my next purchase (changing to 18's). It's worth shopping around.
ditto on the invos
 
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