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Ok so I was out driving the other day, and out of nowhere I see a newer STi get behind me at a light, and so I get all excited because I havent raced one yet. So we turn the corner, and he guns it past me, and of course im like d*mn that thing is fast. So i go around the person in front of me, and get up to a stoplight with him. He looks over with a smirk on his face and nods his head like a "hey whats up?" So i nod back, and at this point, I have noticed a stock exhaust, so I assume its stock. Either way, his AWD will kill me off the line, so I decide to just chill with it. So the light goes green and he takes off, so Im thinkin to myself, ok well when he hits the speed limit, ill just catch up to him and go from a roll. Well he didnt slow down...
so here is where it all starts ...
he at this point is 3-4 car length in front of me, and pulling (partial throttle im assuming because im not flooring it yet...). So then i say well F that! and i hit it in 2nd, and then i realize he has hit it too, because his rear end drops! So im goin crazy because im finally racing an STi.
I still baby my TKO500 even after like 8k on it, so im a slow shifter, but about half way thru 3rd, i have matched his speed, and have started to pull up on him. by the end of 4th, my front bumper is at his rear bumper, and then i hit 5th (and with their high axle ratios, im assuming he is now in 5th too). so I go in 5th for a few seconds, and then by the time my front bumper gets to his front bumper, he hits his brakes. keep in mind we are up around 120mph at this point. So then i hit my brakes, and call it a victory.
So i call one of my friends and tell him I won, and he agreed, and said good job. then i call another friend, and hes like "u didnt get in front of him, so u lost, u got smashed by a stock STi!" to that, i say "wtf? i caught up to him and was right next to him and PULLING when he hit his brakes... so ho did i lose?" and he said well u were doing 120, and in a quarter mile u wouldnt be that fast, and u were still behind him, so u lost. so i say, but i started off 3-4 carlengths back, and then i closed it on him, so how did i lose?
of course, he doesnt let up because he just wants me to lose apparently. he agrees i had the potential to win but says "u lost this one tho, because u never got in front"
so then my other friend (who said i won) started to agree that i lost because "the STi hit his brakes, so he was acknoledging he won, and u should too. so i throw out this statement ... "so if u and i were out onthe road (and he has a cavalier) and u were 3-4 in front of me, and then i started to come up on u, and u hit ur brakes before i got there, does that mean u won?" so hes like good point ... u won, lol. so then the other friend is like "no way man, then i have beat u every time we raced (he has an AWD turbo talon) because u give up before i do, so i win then.
so i tell him hes an idiot because when him and i race, we are side by side, and when i hit my brakes, its because im in front of him and pulling still, so i obviously have one already. so he says no and that im an idiot, and that the STi won, and that he has beat me every time. and im like HOW?! the STi was in front of me, and i closed it up on him until i was right next to him and pulling, then he hit his brakes, so i win...
he says no way, then he wins all of our races, and again im like ... no ... its different cause we start out side by side, and the STi was 3-4 in front of me.
then a 3rd friend calls me, and he has a big16g FWD eclipse; and i tell him the story, and hes liek yea u won ... plus, hes like "i can stay right next to an STi, and that was with the stock turbo, and so now im faster ... and ur faster then me too, so yea, u would and did win"

Sorry that was so long ... but what do you guys think? Who wins? the car that was in front and going to start off with, or the car that was behind from the start, and then caught up before the one in front gave up?
 

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1) First, my disclaimer, race at the track, its safer, fun, and no guessing, you know exactly how fast you are.
2) The friend that said 120mph in a 1/4 mile is not that fast obviously hasn't been to a track and doesn't know what he is talking about. Usually a car that can do 120mph in a 1/4 mile is in 11.20/11.50 territory. Name a factory car that can do that which doesn't cost as much as a house. :?:
3) Next time you do decide to race, go for the kill immediately. If you knew the GTI had AWD, all the more reason to come out of the hole with everything you have. NO MERCY. If you would have done this, then lets say he takes you by 2 cars off the line. Since you made up 4 car lengths, you would have won by 2 and wouldn't be in this debate now.
4) LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT: to have a race, you need a finish line. If you pulled on him and came up even within a 1/4 mile then yeah, I would say you won. But if it took you 1/2 mile to do it....you lost and I would consider it borderline flyby material.
 

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Well, from what I know, the STI is slightly faster than the GT, so there is no dignity lost if you didnt technically "win". Sounds like you didnt get an even take off. Although during a roll, that eliminates the advantage of having AWD, so a GT should be able to take one with all that torque.
Edit: Oh wait you don't have any '05...nevermind, I don't know how your car performs i nthat respect. I was talking from an '05 perspective :)
 

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no i have a 342 stroker, probably with around 300+ to the wheels, so to me, it s a win ... especialyl considering if the STi and i had started side by side, i would have been ahead 3-4 lengths...
 

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Yoshi, I checked out your page....http://www.cardomain.com/ride/546774

Your uncle's cobra pushing 20psi is SICK, I wonder what that thing would do if he somehow found a tire that would allow him to launch! 740rwhp has got to be fun and a handfull.

The 85 GT with the 393 and 200hp nos set up I bet is pretty fast to. And nice camaro race car...the launch picture was sweet.

Looks like you put alot of time and effort on that, cool 8 pages!!
 

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thanks :) my uncles car dynod 580 to the wheels, and he is now gettin about 50 more with larger fuel rails, and "a wiring harness." i dunno what the harness is for...but itll help apparently. The guy who did it was in MM&FF i believe like last june, hermann stolzenberg or something, from Horsepower by Hermann. He is currently in Crofton, MD, but hes about to move to FL somewhere :(

i havent riden in the 85 gt, but i bet its about the same as (if not faster than since its lighter than) the 04 mystichrome.

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Yoshi, I checked out your page....http://www.cardomain.com/ride/546774

Your uncle's cobra pushing 20psi is SICK, I wonder what that thing would do if he somehow found a tire that would allow him to launch! 740rwhp has got to be fun and a handfull.

The 85 GT with the 393 and 200hp nos set up I bet is pretty fast to. And nice camaro race car...the launch picture was sweet.

Looks like you put alot of time and effort on that, cool 8 pages!!
 

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Next time launch your sh!t, then you dont have to ask your friends what they think..... Your set up should be enuf to take an STI........
 

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Those are some nice cobra's on cardomain site. Sometimes I wish I woulda gotten one, but they were just so hard to find "new" in '05 since most of the '04s were used.
 

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tw0scoops123 said:
Those are some nice cobra's on cardomain site. Sometimes I wish I woulda gotten one, but they were just so hard to find "new" in '05 since most of the '04s were used.
it would have been worth buying a cobra ... they hit 10s with a stock block, and heads, and lower end ... basically a stock motor with just bolt ons ... AND itll be a daily driven 10 sec car
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so who won?
 

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see i disagree, look at what i said before:
"so then my other friend (who said i won) started to agree that i lost because "the STi hit his brakes, so he was acknoledging he won, and u should too. so i throw out this statement ... "so if u and i were out onthe road (and he has a cavalier) and u were 3-4 in front of me, and then i started to come up on u, [and then got front bumper to front bumper with you as i continued to be pulling] and u hit ur brakes before i got there, does that mean u won [just because you WERE in front of me, even tho i started off BEHIND u] ?" so hes like good point ... u won, lol"

does that mean that the cavalier would win because he ended first? no ...

in my opinion, i was pulling on him when i was right on his ass, and then he realized it and gave up
 

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You were going 120 mph, I would have let up too. That is just too fast to be going out on the road. Sure, it's a rush and before you know it your going 100+ and climbing, I've been there myself, but its dangerous. You should have went from a dig to begin with, that is a true drag/street race IMO. Plus with your mods, you have the car to beat and most likely would have smoked him.
 

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i think the sti is kinda of punk for not slow down so you could get a fair run but i wouldnt say it was lost for you or a win for him but if i had to choose between the two i would say you won i dont shut down until the other car stops pulling or if i see a cop lol that only way you can doing it but u should just wait until you meet up with a sti again but if he had 4 cars on you and you pulled i would say you would kill one pretty good
 

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timberlane_2003 said:
i think the sti is kinda of punk for not slow down so you could get a fair run but i wouldnt say it was lost for you or a win for him but if i had to choose between the two i would say you won i dont shut down until the other car stops pulling or if i see a cop lol that only way you can doing it but u should just wait until you meet up with a sti again but if he had 4 cars on you and you pulled i would say you would kill one pretty good
why is he a punk? Just check out Yoshi's setup, he's car probably sound like a freaking monster while idling........ If i was the guy in the STI ill do the same.......
 

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psfracer said:
1) First, my disclaimer, race at the track, its safer, fun, and no guessing, you know exactly how fast you are.
Agreed!!


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2) The friend that said 120mph in a 1/4 mile is not that fast obviously hasn't been to a track and doesn't know what he is talking about. Usually a car that can do 120mph in a 1/4 mile is in 11.20/11.50 territory. Name a factory car that can do that which doesn't cost as much as a house. :?:
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The 02-04 Z06. Maybe not 11.2-11.5 territory but close with a handful running [email protected] With drag radials and intake, closer.
 

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True a stock Z06 runs high 11's in the 1/4, but its also a $65k car, in a totally different league than the Mustang and STI. I also agree with Austin, why is he a punk for not letting up, I know I wouldn't. He is a punk for driving an STI though :laughlitt .
 

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95MGTS: Ok, I could give you that one...because the new zo6 is capable of that (505hp, right?) and while expensive...it is cheaper then a house. BTW, remember I was asking about if I could beat my buddies 2005 vette vert? Well he backed out, but now he is putting on a s/c, so I don't have a chance in hell now....

Yoshi: As far as winning or loosing the race, it depends where the finish line was. If you caught up to him when you were 4 cars back, and the fact you have 3.73's with nitto's, I think its a safe bet you would take him from a dig.
 
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