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Who do you think won? my Stroker GT vs. an STi

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Ok so I was out driving the other day, and out of nowhere I see a newer STi get behind me at a light, and so I get all excited because I havent raced one yet. So we turn the corner, and he guns it past me, and of course im like d*mn that thing is fast. So i go around the person in front of me, and get up to a stoplight with him. He looks over with a smirk on his face and nods his head like a "hey whats up?" So i nod back, and at this point, I have noticed a stock exhaust, so I assume its stock. Either way, his AWD will kill me off the line, so I decide to just chill with it. So the light goes green and he takes off, so Im thinkin to myself, ok well when he hits the speed limit, ill just catch up to him and go from a roll. Well he didnt slow down...
so here is where it all starts ...
he at this point is 3-4 car length in front of me, and pulling (partial throttle im assuming because im not flooring it yet...). So then i say well F that! and i hit it in 2nd, and then i realize he has hit it too, because his rear end drops! So im goin crazy because im finally racing an STi.
I still baby my TKO500 even after like 8k on it, so im a slow shifter, but about half way thru 3rd, i have matched his speed, and have started to pull up on him. by the end of 4th, my front bumper is at his rear bumper, and then i hit 5th (and with their high axle ratios, im assuming he is now in 5th too). so I go in 5th for a few seconds, and then by the time my front bumper gets to his front bumper, he hits his brakes. keep in mind we are up around 120mph at this point. So then i hit my brakes, and call it a victory.
So i call one of my friends and tell him I won, and he agreed, and said good job. then i call another friend, and hes like "u didnt get in front of him, so u lost, u got smashed by a stock STi!" to that, i say "wtf? i caught up to him and was right next to him and PULLING when he hit his brakes... so ho did i lose?" and he said well u were doing 120, and in a quarter mile u wouldnt be that fast, and u were still behind him, so u lost. so i say, but i started off 3-4 carlengths back, and then i closed it on him, so how did i lose?
of course, he doesnt let up because he just wants me to lose apparently. he agrees i had the potential to win but says "u lost this one tho, because u never got in front"
so then my other friend (who said i won) started to agree that i lost because "the STi hit his brakes, so he was acknoledging he won, and u should too. so i throw out this statement ... "so if u and i were out onthe road (and he has a cavalier) and u were 3-4 in front of me, and then i started to come up on u, and u hit ur brakes before i got there, does that mean u won?" so hes like good point ... u won, lol. so then the other friend is like "no way man, then i have beat u every time we raced (he has an AWD turbo talon) because u give up before i do, so i win then.
so i tell him hes an idiot because when him and i race, we are side by side, and when i hit my brakes, its because im in front of him and pulling still, so i obviously have one already. so he says no and that im an idiot, and that the STi won, and that he has beat me every time. and im like HOW?! the STi was in front of me, and i closed it up on him until i was right next to him and pulling, then he hit his brakes, so i win...
he says no way, then he wins all of our races, and again im like ... no ... its different cause we start out side by side, and the STi was 3-4 in front of me.
then a 3rd friend calls me, and he has a big16g FWD eclipse; and i tell him the story, and hes liek yea u won ... plus, hes like "i can stay right next to an STi, and that was with the stock turbo, and so now im faster ... and ur faster then me too, so yea, u would and did win"

Sorry that was so long ... but what do you guys think? Who wins? the car that was in front and going to start off with, or the car that was behind from the start, and then caught up before the one in front gave up?
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1) First, my disclaimer, race at the track, its safer, fun, and no guessing, you know exactly how fast you are.
2) The friend that said 120mph in a 1/4 mile is not that fast obviously hasn't been to a track and doesn't know what he is talking about. Usually a car that can do 120mph in a 1/4 mile is in 11.20/11.50 territory. Name a factory car that can do that which doesn't cost as much as a house. :?:
3) Next time you do decide to race, go for the kill immediately. If you knew the GTI had AWD, all the more reason to come out of the hole with everything you have. NO MERCY. If you would have done this, then lets say he takes you by 2 cars off the line. Since you made up 4 car lengths, you would have won by 2 and wouldn't be in this debate now.
4) LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT: to have a race, you need a finish line. If you pulled on him and came up even within a 1/4 mile then yeah, I would say you won. But if it took you 1/2 mile to do lost and I would consider it borderline flyby material.
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Yoshi, I checked out your page....

Your uncle's cobra pushing 20psi is SICK, I wonder what that thing would do if he somehow found a tire that would allow him to launch! 740rwhp has got to be fun and a handfull.

The 85 GT with the 393 and 200hp nos set up I bet is pretty fast to. And nice camaro race car...the launch picture was sweet.

Looks like you put alot of time and effort on that, cool 8 pages!!
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95MGTS: Ok, I could give you that one...because the new zo6 is capable of that (505hp, right?) and while is cheaper then a house. BTW, remember I was asking about if I could beat my buddies 2005 vette vert? Well he backed out, but now he is putting on a s/c, so I don't have a chance in hell now....

Yoshi: As far as winning or loosing the race, it depends where the finish line was. If you caught up to him when you were 4 cars back, and the fact you have 3.73's with nitto's, I think its a safe bet you would take him from a dig.
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Sephiroth03 said:
With his mods, he would crap all over your 05, roll or dig. STI, guys, quit downing yourselfs on these cars ie the SRT-4's, EVO's, STI's, they are no joke, and mod for mod, ANY Mustang GT will see tail's with these cars.
From a roll is the only chance IF, BIG IF, you have some FI(nitrous). If not, expect to see the back of them, sorry.
I beat them all day long at the tracks I go to.....but I have n20....but they have a turbo....the debate could go on and on. But no stock sti or evo will even come close to a 12.30. And I 60' faster then the AWD because I hit the N20 right out of the hole (its activated at WOT) ...60' a 1.79 on street tires, auto with stock converter.
I will agree with you on one thing have to respect those cars...very fast completely stock. I do think a stock EVO will beat a stock GT any day of the week. I agree except for the srt-4. I see many run at the track, and while they mph very good (one that was modded I saw ran 112mph), their 60 foots suck (I would imagine turbo lag or something). That same srt4 that ran 112 mph only had an et of 13.15.
And also, no matter what you have...there is always someone out there that is faster. I am sure that there are plenty of modded evos and sti's that can run well below a 12.30.
But in the end each race stands alone. No one can say this car is faster than that car until you know all the mods, so I disagree with the statement mod for mod we would see tailights. A turbo on a 4.6 is insane, just look what they are running. .
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Gro_oms said:
I say you won. I mean you said that you was going to catch up and go from a roll at the speed limit, so that means you wasn't on it all the way, then when you saw that he wasn't slowing you hit it and CAUGHT him even when he had a humongous advantage with the head start and was on the verge of passing him. He might of hit the brakes know that you was about to own him and hit them to say that he won. There is no finish line on the street so it could have keep on going. So in my book you WON hands down.
When I was alot younger than I am now...I street raced...and there was always a finish line. Otherwise, the person with the highest top speed would win everytime. What, you want to race from Barstow to Vegas?? Of course there is a finish line...unless you are into the "fast and the furious" lets race through traffic and whoever is the craziest wins bullsh*t. The people who think there are no finish lines are also the ones who flyby you when the race has already ended.

Yoshi, it shouldn't bother you, like you said, you pulled on him 3-4 cars. If your nittos suck, get new ones, and you and I both know you won't have any trouble next time...
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