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Will 2005-2009 Mustang seats fit in a 1999-2004?

Just as the title reads.

I have a 2002 GT with cloth seats and curious if I am going to replace with leather if I have to replace with 99-04 seats or would the 05-09 seats work? I see more seats for 05-09 than for 99-04. Plus I like 05-09 seats. I feel like somebody has tried or knows. I did a quick glance search and found only closed threads that didn't seem to really answer. If there is a thread I missed feel free to post link.

On a side note will 11-current seats fit?

Thanks!
 
Will 2005-2009 Mustang seats fit in a 1999-2004?

Just as the title reads.

I have a 2002 GT with cloth seats and curious if I am going to replace with leather if I have to replace with 99-04 seats or would the 05-09 seats work? I see more seats for 05-09 than for 99-04. Plus I like 05-09 seats. I feel like somebody has tried or knows. I did a quick glance search and found only closed threads that didn't seem to really answer. If there is a thread I missed feel free to post link.

On a side note will 11-current seats fit?

Thanks!
I noticed a YouTube video addressing this and advertising seat tracks for the conversion...so, apparently it can be done, but not a seat for seat swap. You might take a look at that. If you do it, I'd be interested in how it turns out. Someone else will likely chime in when the sun comes up. Enjoy!
 
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I noticed a YouTube video addressing this and advertising seat tracks for the conversion...so, apparently it can be done, but not a seat for seat swap. You might take a look at that. If you do it, I'd be interested in how it turns out. Someone else will likely chime in when the sun comes up. Enjoy!

Well that is rough the sun not only came up, but has gone back down and no other responses. haha Maybe somebody will respond by tomorrow.

Thanks for the input. Do you have a link to the youtube video I might go watch and see.
 
Short answer, yes. Long answer, not hard to do.

Swap your brackets over to the new seats (will need to measure, mark and drill holes in the S197 seat pans) and if you type "S197 seats in sn95 mustang" into Google one of the top results is a thread from SVTP that you can use as your install guide (including wiring for driver seat power features).

Don't d!ck around with another set of crappy, uncomfortable, unusable headrest, sits too high SN95/New Edge seats that you'll just end up regretting later when you coulda spent the money right the first time. Guaranteed to satisfy.
 

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Only thing I sacrificed was the seat belt loops. I tried to make the ones from my old seats work but they kinda flopped around and I decided I preferred the mild inconvenience of not having them vs. having them and them not being 100% right.
 
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Short answer, yes. Long answer, not hard to do.

Swap your brackets over to the new seats (will need to measure, mark and drill holes in the S197 seat pans) and if you type "S197 seats in sn95 mustang" into Google one of the top results is a thread from SVTP that you can use as your install guide (including wiring for driver seat power features).

Don't d!ck around with another set of crappy, uncomfortable, unusable headrest, sits too high SN95/New Edge seats that you'll just end up regretting later when you coulda spent the money right the first time. Guaranteed to satisfy.
THANKS for the info. Glad to see you also did it and pictured it. Looks great!
 
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@SoCal2V, do you have any pictures of your seat tracks? Also, do your seats sit closer to the dash than they used to, and closer to the floor?
Crap, no I don't. Only pics of the finished product. As far as front/rear, they have pretty much the same range as the factory seats. Wanna say that depending on seatback recline angle they may actually go back a little further. And yes they do sit lower, both in terms of actual sitting position and also in proximity to the floor. I feel like I'm sitting IN the car, not ON it like I did with the factory seats - amazing what going down just an inch or two can do. Didn't have to do anything on the driver seat but on passenger side I used a couple of oversized hex nuts in between the bracket and the seat pan (slipped over the bolts) to get the correct angle for the seat bottom (keeps it in a fixed, slightly reclined position - about the same as I keep the driver seat) and also for clearance so it doesn't scrape across the carpet.
 
If you look around, there is (or was) somebody out there making adaptor brackets that make it so you can retain the S197 seat brackets and bolt everything up to your SN95 floorpan. Think I saw them on Ebay?? Anyway, they were about $200 last I knew; for that price I was super cool with buying a good drill bit, hardware and spending a couple hours installing the SN95 brackets on the new seats.
 
If you look around, there is (or was) somebody out there making adaptor brackets that make it so you can retain the S197 seat brackets and bolt everything up to your SN95 floorpan. Think I saw them on Ebay?? Anyway, they were about $200 last I knew; for that price I was super cool with buying a good drill bit, hardware and spending a couple hours installing the SN95 brackets on the new seats.
Im going to have to pull mine out and see what they did with them. Ive got a set of s197 seats in my car but I got them from a guy that already had them in a SN95. My seats sit too close to the dash and are real low in the car.
 
Im going to have to pull mine out and see what they did with them. Ive got a set of s197 seats in my car but I got them from a guy that already had them in a SN95. My seats sit too close to the dash and are real low in the car.
The S197 seats are EXTREMELY low in the S197 too. I keep my powered driver seat all the way up as high as it will go. When I sit in the passenger seat, which is not powered and not height adjustable, I can't even see my hood over the dash, and I'm six feet tall.
 
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If you look around, there is (or was) somebody out there making adaptor brackets that make it so you can retain the S197 seat brackets and bolt everything up to your SN95 floorpan. Think I saw them on Ebay?? Anyway, they were about $200 last I knew; for that price I was super cool with buying a good drill bit, hardware and spending a couple hours installing the SN95 brackets on the new seats.
$200? That doesn't seem way out of line. So it is a direct bolt on kit that would make this job like an hr job? How long did it take you to custom fab it yourself?

The S197 seats are EXTREMELY low in the S197 too. I keep my powered driver seat all the way up as high as it will go. When I sit in the passenger seat, which is not powered and not height adjustable, I can't even see my hood over the dash, and I'm six feet tall.
Really? I am pretty short as in under 6ft and don't remember this being an issue with my 06 GT's. I think I had it all the way down or at least most of the way down. I like sitting low I guess and I suppose it is all preference and what you are used to. I loved the seating in my SLK I had. A couple friends however didn't care for it as they said they felt their but was riding the ground... haha I don't remember having issue seeing over the hood or anything like that in my 06 GT...
 
$200? That doesn't seem way out of line. So it is a direct bolt on kit that would make this job like an hr job? How long did it take you to custom fab it yourself?
Once you see what that $200 gets you maybe you'll change your mind. Or maybe I'm just cheap, lol. The brackets are just 4 pieces of steel, bent and drilled in the right places. I get it, somebody's just trying to run a business and they can feel free to sell their product at any price that makes it and worthwhile venture. Some will choose to hit the Easy button and pay to play, others will find a creative workaround. I spent maybe an hour or so on each seat. Measure, mark, measure again, open beer, run in the house because my boys are being boys, re-engage mentally with project, double check measurements again, sip beer, drill holes, sip beer, mount brackets, test fit, open another beer, pat self on back for getting it right the first time.... That was pretty much my process.
 
Really? I am pretty short as in under 6ft and don't remember this being an issue with my 06 GT's. I think I had it all the way down or at least most of the way down. I like sitting low I guess and I suppose it is all preference and what you are used to. I loved the seating in my SLK I had. A couple friends however didn't care for it as they said they felt their but was riding the ground... haha I don't remember having issue seeing over the hood or anything like that in my 06 GT...
Well, truth is, there is a little bit of red metal hood showing at seat bottom, but not enough for my complete comfort. Consider this. for me, at seat top, There is still a good foot and a half of Mustang sticking out beyond the horizon of the hood that I can't see. It's the shape of the hood, really. I'm not complaining about the Mustang. It's just that I've been driving since 1965, learned how to drive in a '59 Chevy Impala 2 dr bubble top, and my brain stem learned to see the absolute dead end of the hood. I like to be able to see the fast end of my vehicle before it hits the pipe bollards out in front of the 7-11 windows.:grin:

Test. Drive a 4 foot stick in the dirt a little bit. Then park the Mustang as close as you can up to it without hitting it. (No outside coaching). Now get out and see how long you think the hood is. Betcha, you will be a good foot off the stick, unless you have practiced it a good deal.
 
Crap, no I don't. Only pics of the finished product. As far as front/rear, they have pretty much the same range as the factory seats. Wanna say that depending on seatback recline angle they may actually go back a little further. And yes they do sit lower, both in terms of actual sitting position and also in proximity to the floor. I feel like I'm sitting IN the car, not ON it like I did with the factory seats - amazing what going down just an inch or two can do. Didn't have to do anything on the driver seat but on passenger side I used a couple of oversized hex nuts in between the bracket and the seat pan (slipped over the bolts) to get the correct angle for the seat bottom (keeps it in a fixed, slightly reclined position - about the same as I keep the driver seat) and also for clearance so it doesn't scrape across the carpet.

Did you change out the rear seat too? I found a set and I would need to change out the rear too since the pattern and color are much different.
 
Did you change out the rear seat too? I found a set and I would need to change out the rear too since the pattern and color are much different.
Nope, can't, rear seats are completely different. The seats I have are out of an '07 GT; if you look closely the S197 GT seats have a very similar perforation and stitching pattern to our cars and match quite well. People like you and I can spot the difference instantly but to be quite honest a "non-Mustang" person won't even be aware that you did a seat swap.... IMO that's just how well these seats "work", they maintain a very clean factory sort of look. V6 seats are identical to GT seats with the exception that the center section "panels" are not perforated leather and therefore won't be as good of a match to the rears. It's something I noticed back when I was doing my shopping, and although for the right price and condition I would have been willing to use them I definitely was specifically keeping GT seats in higher consideration.

As far as color goes I don't know what interior you have. The '05+ Parchment is a shade or whatever lighter than mine were and I was at least a little nervous there, but the Parchment color on the door panels etc in my car is also a shade lighter than the old seats and therefore these worked out perfectly. They actually match the rear vinyl and rest of the interior panels better than the factory seats did.

If you have a '94 - '98 car with Med. Parchment interior (they actually had a different name for it but it escapes me right now), now that color was definitely darker, more toward the brown end of the spectrum. These seats would definitely be noticeably off in one of those cars. If black/charcoal or grey though I'm pretty confident that '05+ seats would match as well as mine did though.
 
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Nope, can't, rear seats are completely different. The seats I have are out of an '07 GT; if you look closely the S197 GT seats have a very similar perforation and stitching pattern to our cars and match quite well. People like you and I can spot the difference instantly but to be quite honest a "non-Mustang" person won't even be aware that you did a seat swap.... IMO that's just how well these seats "work", they maintain a very clean factory sort of look. V6 seats are identical to GT seats with the exception that the center section "panels" are not perforated leather and therefore won't be as good of a match to the rears. It's something I noticed back when I was doing my shopping, and although for the right price and condition I would have been willing to use them I definitely was specifically keeping GT seats in higher consideration.

As far as color goes I don't know what interior you have. The '05+ Parchment is a shade or whatever lighter than mine were and I was at least a little nervous there, but the Parchment color on the door panels etc in my car is also a shade lighter than the old seats and therefore these worked out perfectly. They actually match the rear vinyl and rest of the interior panels better than the factory seats did.

If you have a '94 - '98 car with Med. Parchment interior (they actually had a different name for it but it escapes me right now), now that color was definitely darker, more toward the brown end of the spectrum. These seats would definitely be noticeably off in one of those cars. If black/charcoal or grey though I'm pretty confident that '05+ seats would match as well as mine did though.

Ohhhhhh so the rear seats will not swap? That kills it for me. I have stock cloth seats and wanting to go to leather. So if rears won't swap I guess I am stuck looking for 99-04 Coupe leather seats.

On a side note I found some front and rears out of a 99-04 convertible, but the seller said they won't fit coupes...Is that true to anybody's knowledge? If so why? ha
 
Rear seat between coupe and convertible are different widths, additionally the coupe rears are 50/50 split so they can fold down and the 'vert seats do not. Do a Google search for images to compare, you'll see what I mean. Same primary issue with S197 seats, different measurements.
 
Ohhhhhh so the rear seats will not swap? That kills it for me. I have stock cloth seats and wanting to go to leather. So if rears won't swap I guess I am stuck looking for 99-04 Coupe leather seats.

On a side note I found some front and rears out of a 99-04 convertible, but the seller said they won't fit coupes...Is that true to anybody's knowledge? If so why? ha
That's a bummer. I have a 2000 Roush Convertible and I found a set of 07 Roush with the light grey leather. My seats are black leather with red inserts and the 07 are the slate grey with red.

My drivers seat is very uncomfortable and I was hoping I could update it. Maybe I'll find a set of black and have an upholstery install the red insert.
 
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