[07cali-special]

i had an s197 v6 for my first car as well and i definitely regretted it.
i would go with the 02gt. you cant beat the sound of a 2V with x pipe and flows lol. the new ones just dont have that sound, but somehow i still ended up with an s197 gt...? lol

but a lot of it is up to what you want from the car. do you want a decent interior thats more comfortable? do you want that "mustang sound" from a v8? either way, insurance with any car for a 16 year old is gonna be damn expensive

 

[Rob05Sixxer]

The s197 v6 is a great platform and is a great car, yes it doesn't have a v8 sound, but neither did that 11 sec evo that just flew by heh

 

[Swpihc1]

Hey 07cali
what made you regret getting the V6 for your first car?

From what I have heard, I don't really need the V8, so I'll just stick to the V6 with the newer body style. It probably still has a warranty, and, appears to be more comfortable.

I went to look at the Mustangs today at the dealerships, the back seats are HUGE!!! My dad was looking at a Porsche Carrera 4S a couple of weeks ago, and those back seats were so freaking small compared to the Mustang. But anyways, my parents asked to see the Crash test ratings on the car, but all the guy brought up was the crash test rating on the '08 (which were all 5 stars, except for one test in the back seat that was a four). I'm planning on purchasing a preowned '05, do you think that the crash test ratings will be the same?

 

[07cali-special]

if i were you, i would go with the v6 for obvious reasons such as comfort, ergonomics, pretty good looks, first car, warranty, etc...

but to me, that special mustang sound is really important so i would've gone with the 02gt. i've always liked the sn95s more because they are so much smaller and in my opinion (i could get flamed A LOT for this), have the potential to look much better than an s197. but i have driven several sn95's and i have come to the conclusion that they werent made for my body type, my body type being a human.

there are practically no headrests. the backseats are so small they make the s197 backseats look comfortable, and the shifter is so far away you have to lean over and reach everytime to shift.

but honestly these were things i would probably be willing to give up if say a nice 03 cobra came along. to some its not worth it

i say i regretted getting the v6 mainly because of the lack of good sound and power, because that is what i wanted from a mustang. not that the v6 lacked power, jsut i learned how to drive stick on an '04 z06 lol. i didnt care too much about refinement and comfort as much as this. it was a great first car, but if i had to do it again, i would've probably just picked up an older gt and kept that until now or just not learned on such a powerful car

 

[A7X1031]

I'm no expert but I would guess that they would be the same...The body styling didn't change so I would imagine if its not the same it would be close.

 

[CrzyHorse]

I would also backup getting a 2005 v6 over your other option simply because it is newer and safer as a first car. It truly does allow you to have decent power and learn to be more responsible and appreciate any other car you may get. You, and I, are both at an age where were just starting off driving and there are going to be a ton of cars that we will drive throughout our lives. If you start at a gt, then your gonna want something faster and so on and so forth. Pace yourself and I'm telling you youll love your v6. I do and I think it definately has enough power.

 

[tached_out]

OK this is the COMPLETE honest opinion about which car to buy. I am not in high school any more and though your peers should NOT subject you to any car but I am young enough to know that driving a V6 in high school will only get crap talked on you. So take that in account if you want if you dont care then thats an easy choice but I think the influence on the people you see every day will make you like a car less and less each day.

My first car though was a V6 Camaro but I thrashed it and didnt care about it so I was known as the crazy guy who drove his Camaro over speed bumped jumping it. Dont do it lol I was immature then.

Now the GT V8 is a completely better car and has way better performance mods. It is alot more potential as well. The V6 you are pretty much limited to body mods.

My choice would be the V8 I would rather drive a car that has a nice deep exhaust and has the power to keep you back in your seat. My car looks nice but I get off by hearing the sound of the engine and exhaust and planting my body back in the seat. Thats were the fun is.

As for warrenty stuff how long do you plan to have this car. I know I did not have my first car long and the only bad thing is that they are 2V both car can looks sick. To me I dont like the stock body style on either models but the Roush kit for the 02 looks INSANE...

Not to bash any V6 owners but I would chose performance over comfort and style any day.

 

[07cali-special]

tact_out took the words right outta my mouth.

the whole v6 issue may not be a huge deal, but to me, back then, it meant a lot and i got a lot of crap for it. i also went to a pretty affluent high school so that was part of the reason as well. also, with the warranty thing, i kept my v6 for about 1-1.5 years before trying to get into a different car

but choose whats more important to you.

for me, performance, power, and sound take precedence over comfort any day as well

 

[Rob05Sixxer]

OK this is the COMPLETE honest opinion about which car to buy. I am not in high school any more and though your peers should NOT subject you to any car but I am young enough to know that driving a V6 in high school will only get crap talked on you. So take that in account if you want if you dont care then thats an easy choice but I think the influence on the people you see every day will make you like a car less and less each day.

My first car though was a V6 Camaro but I thrashed it and didnt care about it so I was known as the crazy guy who drove his Camaro over speed bumped jumping it. Dont do it lol I was immature then.

Now the GT V8 is a completely better car and has way better performance mods. It is alot more potential as well. The V6 you are pretty much limited to body mods.

My choice would be the V8 I would rather drive a car that has a nice deep exhaust and has the power to keep you back in your seat. My car looks nice but I get off by hearing the sound of the engine and exhaust and planting my body back in the seat. Thats were the fun is.

As for warrenty stuff how long do you plan to have this car. I know I did not have my first car long and the only bad thing is that they are 2V both car can looks sick. To me I dont like the stock body style on either models but the Roush kit for the 02 looks INSANE...

Not to bash any V6 owners but I would chose performance over comfort and style any day.

I will agree with you ,as soon as I hit 16 guess what car I made a straight shot towards? I test drove both 05 GT and 05 V6, I would have loved to get a GT then but it just wasnt the best option for me, being a new driver. It's all personal preference, and I agree with what Tact is saying, a nice throaty, torque monster v8 will be sick fun, but just be careful and take time to decide. I love both my car and the v8's. Just be glad your getting a mustang! I made the right choice by waiting because now I have the option of getting a second stang, I have decided on the 09 GT, because I cant get over the way the car looks, how they perform so on and so forth. Just be careful with whatever you decide!

 

[RetroGT2006]

i would go with the v6. insurance for a 16 year old would kill you. i had a v8 f150 when i was 16 and insurance was insane. go with the v6, itll keep you out of trouble...well a little more so.

Yup, i can agree with that.. Unless youve got alot of money for insurance, it wouldnt be practical.. I love mine, but i had a 07 v6 for a week.. i wasnt even supposed to get a 06 GT..

i have an 06 v6 and im 18, got the car when i was 15-16, i wish i had a GT honestly, you get sooo much crap for having a v6, but my new v6 is faster then the old gt's lol.

Insurance is low on my car, it is not considered a sports car for some reason. as for gas mileage.... i can get 29 or 12 depending on how i drive, lol.

your choice but man i would love a GT

Yah, when ihad gotten a v6 for that 1 week.. people talked soo much sh**.. it was funny b/c my v6 was still faster then what they had..

 

[DatBoyRacer]

im 16 i own a 06 gt i pay for it i work 2 jobs and go to school its worth it tho but get what u want id go for the gt

 

[Rob05Sixxer]

Yup, i can agree with that.. Unless youve got alot of money for insurance, it wouldnt be practical.. I love mine, but i had a 07 v6 for a week.. i wasnt even supposed to get a 06 GT..



Yah, when ihad gotten a v6 for that 1 week.. people talked soo much sh**.. it was funny b/c my v6 was still faster then what they had..

People talked crap to me, I just blew it off because I knew eventually I would get a GT, specifically the 09 GT, and these kids hang out at the local drag strip. All is fair in love and war, but im the one bringing a tank to knife fight!

 

[tricali]

I probably go against the majority, but get the GT. They're both beautiful cars with lots of room to grow. I do miss owning an SN95 body, but ever since I switched over, I realized that I could not go back to a V6. The sound of 8 cylinders firing in succession. Or, maybe it's a torque thing? If you decide to put a blower on either car, the GT has so much more room to grow. Complaining about insurance is a lot like complaining about gas. If you can afford it, get the GT. No offense to anyone, of course. Just my $0.02.

 

[thomasp6161]

Hey all,
I recently posted a thread about type/accessories/price of the 2005 V6 Mustangs. However, after researching on eBay (not the best place for research probably) I came to the conclusion that I could purchase an older model (2003 or below) with a bigger engine for practically the same price as the V6. I was wondering if you all could help me out, were you in my shoes, would you buy the V6 or would you purchase an older GT with a V8 and more options? Although I like the V6 body style more than I like the older ones, I'm still not sure if I need that much engine power. Me being a 16 year old, it will probably up my insurance a but load, and also, I know that if I drive a Mustang with a V8, I'll stomp the gas everywhere I go, probably not a good thing. I just can't figure out which one will be better for me in the long run, and which will look cooler. What's y'all opinion?
Thanks
Swpihc1:wavey

Hey;

If you can afford the insurance and the upkeep, plus avoid speeding tickets go with the V8. That means not speeding and or street racing.

But, I as father and you being just a bit younger, I rather you see you in a V6. The newer V6 are fast enough to get you into a lot of trouble.

Tom

 

[ultraswg]

Now the GT V8 is a completely better car and has way better performance mods. It is alot more potential as well. The V6 you are pretty much limited to body mods.

I don't know why people are agreeing with you on this, because it's simply not true. A new 4.0 V6 with a supercharger (of which, there are several available) will be much faster than a GT while costing thousands less. Dollar for dollar, the 4.0 V6 mustang is a real contender. You are NOT limited to just body mods. The Shelby CS6 is proof of that. There's a video on YouTube of a turbo V6 running 11.08, beating vettes and SRT's - and his car cost about the same as a GT.

I don't know if catching **** from your Highschool peers matters to you. I drove an 82 Honda Goldwing in Highschool and caught **** for not driving a Harley (even though at the time no teenager would ever have been able to afford any kind of Harley). It didn't make me dislike my bike at all; I loved my bike and you'll love your mustang. You'll just hate the haters, but there will always be haters. This will build character in you.

But if you're really that concerned, then just make your V6 look like a GT, it doesn't cost much to do that... just don't pop your hood.

BTW, insurance for a GT is gunna kill you. The V6 will save you a couple grand a year at least. Put the money you save into some mods for your 4.0..... or save it for college :hihi:

 

[tached_out]

I don't know why people are agreeing with you on this, because it's simply not true. A new 4.0 V6 with a supercharger (of which, there are several available) will be much faster than a GT while costing thousands less. Dollar for dollar, the 4.0 V6 mustang is a real contender. You are NOT limited to just body mods. The Shelby CS6 is proof of that. There's a video on YouTube of a turbo V6 running 11.08, beating vettes and SRT's - and his car cost about the same as a GT.

I don't know if catching **** from your Highschool peers matters to you. I drove an 82 Honda Goldwing in Highschool and caught **** for not driving a Harley (even though at the time no teenager would ever have been able to afford any kind of Harley). It didn't make me dislike my bike at all; I loved my bike and you'll love your mustang. You'll just hate the haters, but there will always be haters. This will build character in you.

But if you're really that concerned, then just make your V6 look like a GT, it doesn't cost much to do that... just don't pop your hood.

BTW, insurance for a GT is gunna kill you. The V6 will save you a couple grand a year at least. Put the money you save into some mods for your 4.0..... or save it for college :hihi:

Actually his insurance probably wont be any thing. The actual value of the 01GT to the V6 is less so that will probably equal every thing out. If he has good grades it will be even lower. Also I think any kid will be on his parents insurance plan as I would think the 3rd or 4th car add on.

Sure you can make your car look like a GT but I will tell you making your car look like some thing that it isnt will get more crap talked on you at school. True kids are cruel no matter what and will probably talk crap on your car if you get the GT because they like Chevy's but here is the catch you can smoke there Chevy with a GT and not a V6.

As for an 11 second V6. That car HAS ALOT of money into it. There is mo way they made an 11 second V6 and spent less then his GT one. The GT he is talking about is an 01 which is probably cheaper then the V6. The amount of supporting Mods an 11 second V-6 would be insane. I would guess there is close to 30k of mods done to that car easily with the motor, turbo, ect.

If you want a fast car I wouldnt get either. If you have 23k I would look for an 03 Cobra if not then I would get a FOX Body and do a Head, Cam and Intake on it and toss it with nitrious and then you will probably have the fastest car out of all the high schools.

And before I say this next suggestion I will probably be punished lol but look for an 01 Z28 the LS motors are GREAT blocks and you can pick them up CHEAP. They will run low 11's N/A and are easily done. The stock block can handle ALOT of power. The only down fall is the rear end but unless you are running 10's you should be fine. For a nice fast street car running low 12's or high 11's that would be your best bet.

But I would most def get the V6. Trust me on that. I had probably the best looking car in town and it was a V8 there was only a matter of time until i was sick of looking at my car and wanted some thing fast.

 

[ultraswg]

I would guess there is close to 30k of mods done to that car easily with the motor, turbo, ect.

I don't think so, you're talking about a $17K donor car, even with 20K in mods (which is quite high, not even the CS6 package costs that much) it's still in the GT price range. I didn't say it cost less, I said it cost the same as some GT's and it would.

It sounds to me like this kid isn't a street racer, he just wants a cool car but wishes to avoid getting punked by some jerks at school. My advice remains, get a car you're going to love and screw the haters.

 

[tached_out]

I don't think so, you're talking about a $17K donor car, even with 20K in mods (which is quite high, not even the CS6 package costs that much) it's still in the GT price range. I didn't say it cost less, I said it cost the same as some GT's and it would.

It sounds to me like this kid isn't a street racer, he just wants a cool car but wishes to avoid getting punked by some jerks at school. My advice remains, get a car you're going to love and screw the haters.

Ok lets think this through on how to get a 11 sec all most 10 second V6

Turbo System 7k
Fuel System 1.2k
Engine Build 2k
Rear End 1.2k
Suspension 1.5k
Transmission if not stock 3k
Drive Shaft .8k
Supporting mods 1k (ie clutch if Manuel or torque converter alum fly wheel and shifter)
Wheels and Tires 2.5k

Thats 20,200$ Not including the price of labor to get a V6 to run low 11's with out including the body kit. Now tell me why would ANY one want to spend over 20k on mods on a car just to run 11's that is idiotic unless your a company trying to prove a point.

Just for him to get his car to ride like a GT would cost alot of money due to the price of OEM parts and Labor to get the suspension all GT. To me there is NO reason ever for a regular person to build a fast V6 unless they are either so bored with there money and want to try some thing new or just out of there mind.

Do you even have a clue how many mods it takes to get a new GT into the 10's let alone a low 11. ALOT of work. I would love to see the mod list on the 11 second V6 that was on youtube because I bet you it is longer then any ones here due to what it would take to accomplish that.

For him to make a V6 as fast as a base GT he would need to spend 7k on a supercharger and then have to worry about his internals, rear end, transmission and suspension. It is so much easier to just buy a car with 8 cylinders.

Nothing against V6 guys you all probably hate me now but please do not buy a V6 because you want a fast car buy it just because you like the car. If you have any desire to go fast find a used GT because you are throwing away money trying to make that car fast.

 

[36908]

I would personally go with the '05 V6. The body style is a LOT better than the '02 in my opinion.

You also have to consider that the '05 will last you longer, should get a little better gas mileage, and probably has more/better features, especially as far as safety is concerned. If I remember right, the current model V6 puts out 210hp, while the last model V8 put out 214hp, so the two extra cylinders aren't really helping you that much as far as power is concerned.

The 1999-2004 Ford Mustang GT puts 260HP to the crank while an estamated 230 to the wheels. The 2005+ V6 Puts out some 210HP to the crank and some 180hp to the wheels. So the older GT has a lot more power and most people will say potential too. So yes the two cylinders will be helping as far as power in concered.

 

[36908]

Now the GT V8 is a completely better car and has way better performance mods. It is alot more potential as well. The V6 you are pretty much limited to body mods.

My choice would be the V8 I would rather drive a car that has a nice deep exhaust and has the power to keep you back in your seat. My car looks nice but I get off by hearing the sound of the engine and exhaust and planting my body back in the seat. Thats were the fun is.

As for warrenty stuff how long do you plan to have this car. I know I did not have my first car long and the only bad thing is that they are 2V both car can looks sick. To me I dont like the stock body style on either models but the Roush kit for the 02 looks INSANE...

Not to bash any V6 owners but I would chose performance over comfort and style any day.

+1 the ROUSH body kit for the SN95 Two looks CRAZY INSANE! Just damn sexy. Putting you to the back of your seat is just an amazing feeling that the V8 can offer you. And go to back up your show. Performance is something many people don't have like for example the "ricers" have what they call show but generaly no go. Be different than the rest of people with nothing more than show and try some go.