[Itsnotfnpurple]

Hi everybody,

It has been years since I have posted something on here. Last time was back in 2007 when I had my 03 gt. Anyways, I'm looking at getting some control arms to correct the wheel hop issue that I have been having. Does anyone have any opinions about the UPR control arms? I'm not looking for adjustable arms because frankly I'm lazy and don't want to mess with the pinion angle. Also, I want the drivebility to be similar to stock. Right now the car (13 gt premium deep impact blue) has gt500 mufflers, bassini aftercat xpipe, and Barton shifter. Any advice is appreciated.

Regards,
Justin

 

[PMDmustang13]

Lca's and relocation brackets. Bmr

 

[Guest]

Hey Justin,

I have the full UPR Pro Street Series on my 2013 GT and I highly recommend them. The parts seems to be very good fit and quality at a good price and are night and day compared to all of the stock suspension parts.

11-13 Mustang 5.0L Street Rear Package | UPRProducts.com

This set up is awesome, not too stiff, but rides like on a rail. See Sharad at UPR Products.

The new worlds record holder uses them. Broke the 275 tire world record 3 days ago.

DAVID PEARSON SETS THE WORLD RECORD ON A 275 & OUTLAW DRAG RADIAL AT LIGHTS OUT 5 - YouTube

 

[NoSlo5oH]

FYI, Kelly from BMR just told me that I wouldn't really benefit from running a relocation bracket on my car which is still at stock ride height.

 

[Blackpenguin69]

Lca's and relocation brackets. Bmr

Heard that!! and then get a BMR upper later if you want.

 

[PMDmustang13]

FYI, Kelly from BMR just told me that I wouldn't really benefit from running a relocation bracket on my car which is still at stock ride height.

Well Kelly does know what he is talking about. When I put my BMR poly bushing LCAs on I at the same time did the relocation brackets and connected to the 1st hole down from stock so my LCA is lower at the axle than at the connection to the frame. My wheel hop problem was solved and I got better traction. Maybe it was just the LCA's. Maybe I have more aggressive set up than I need.

I am going to get some measurements before I lower my car and find out what my instant center and anti-squat percentage is with current set up. This is what I am talking about

WWW.S197FORUM.COM

 

[Sharad]

These UPR control arms are the way to go. They are Made in America, they carry a Lifetime Guarantee, and they work really well.

 

[BMR Tech]

Hi everybody,

It has been years since I have posted something on here. Last time was back in 2007 when I had my 03 gt. Anyways, I'm looking at getting some control arms to correct the wheel hop issue that I have been having. Does anyone have any opinions about the UPR control arms? I'm not looking for adjustable arms because frankly I'm lazy and don't want to mess with the pinion angle. Also, I want the drivebility to be similar to stock. Right now the car (13 gt premium deep impact blue) has gt500 mufflers, bassini aftercat xpipe, and Barton shifter. Any advice is appreciated.

Regards,
Justin

Justin, I assist people all day, everyday, that are looking for what you are from some basic suspension modifications.

Let me show you what will be the absolute best performing combo, while retaining a very "nice" ride.

First of all, control arms only - are a nice upgrade, but these cars REALLY benefit from a little bit of increased Anti-Squat.

In order to increase the Anti-Squat, you have to use products that allow for control arm angle adjustment (not pinion angle)

Here are a few basic pictures to help explain:





A model showing our/BMR, Control Arm Positions


Since we do all of our own Engineering, Design, Testing, Manufacturing, etc in house....I have a very good grasp on what works, and what does not - and what pieces will provide the end use with the "best bang for the buck" results.

It is not without reason that we are the Leaders in the S197 Suspension world, and I would be silly not to recommend our components.

That said, IF you plan on lowering the car 1" or more, these are the products that I highly recommend:

BMR 2011+ Upper Control Arm Mount:
2005 - 2014 Mustang GT | Upper Control Arms | UCM002 - Upper Control Arm Mount | BMR Suspension - The Leader in High Performance Suspension & Chassis

*This piece has a position SPECIFICALLY engineered for a lowered car, that uses LCA Relocation Brackets. If the car is lowered, you want to use the UPPER Position on this mount.

BMR S197 Rear Lower Control Arms:
2005 - 2014 Mustang GT | Lower Control Arms | TCA019 - Lower Control Arms, Boxed, DOM, Non-adjustable, Polyurethane Bushings | BMR Suspension - The Leader in High Performance Suspension & Chassis

BMR S197 Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets:
2005 - 2014 Mustang GT | Control Arm Relocation Brackets | CAB005 - Control Arm Relocation Brackets, Bolt-on | BMR Suspension - The Leader in High Performance Suspension & Chassis

These are 100%, the best bolt-on brackets available for the S197 Chassis. They are truly engineered with pride, and eye gouging performance results to back it up. JPC runs 1.1 - 1.2 sixties on these, bolted-on.

*If the car is lowered, you will want to "start" with the middle-position on these pieces.

IF the car is not lowered, you will want to use the UCM002 listed above, in the LOWER HOLE.....and you will not need the LCA Relocation Brackets.

So, if you are not lowered:

BMR-UCM002 Upper Control Arm Mount
(Use your OEM UCA, and the lowest position on the bracket)

BMR-TCA019 Rear Lower Control Arms
(Install them, and enjoy)

You will be absolutely amazed at what $290 worth of components, while retaining the OEM UCA, can do for the performance of your car..

If you have any other questions, please let me know.

Happy modding!

 

[PMDmustang13]

Kelly,
Is that image of the mustang gt (11-14) at factory height or lowered? I have my UCA and LCA's set up just like that image and not lowered yet. So if that image is just like how I am set up (Not lowered yet) then it looks like my IC is below the neutral line still. And to fix it would be to lower the LCA down 1 hole and then it looks like I would then be at 100% AS. I think that image is actually of a lowered mustang but I don't know how much?

So if that image is actually a lowered 11-14 mustang gt then it proves your recommendation that lowered mustang (1" to 1.5"?) should use the middle hole on the LCA and the upper hole of the UCA mount.

 

[red13]

Kelly,

Thanks for the pictures and the very helpful explanation.

For my piece of mind... I have the trackpack. Will the suggested parts for a Non lowered car stop my terrible wheel hop?

Thanks! high5.gif

CJ

 

[Itsnotfnpurple]

Thanks Kelly. That helps tremendously.

Red- im going to say yes.

 

[red13]

Yeah just double checking. Getting my mod list together.

CJ

 

[ekopel]

what about anti-dive under braking? just from the way it looks, lcas w/o relo and uca seems as if it would adjust the angles to keep the rear end lower under braking? just a simple question.

 

[Sharad]

what about anti-dive under braking? just from the way it looks, lcas w/o relo and uca seems as if it would adjust the angles to keep the rear end lower under braking? just a simple question.

Too much anti-squat actually turns into brake hop under hard braking. Professional road racers tend to keep the LCAs level to the ground to minimize squat and hop.